>
> >
> > You know, this is something I personally have never even though about...at
> > least from the aspect of your e-mail address. But it makes absolute
> sense.
> > Because being new myself, I have already leaned there are some people you
> > just don\'t open and then there are some that you learn things from.
> >
> > And since Howard is someone who falls into that latter catagory, I am
> > changing which mail service I use for group-study as he is actually
> someone
>
> > that I read on a consistant basis.
> >
> > And one thing he is very definately right on about, is the fact that
> newbies
> > like myself are in awe of some of you guys. I took everyone\'s word in a
> > literal sense when I first started reading this group and then I realized
> I
>
> > needed to weed out the strays in order NOT to be misdirected. I also
> > considered dropping this group, but decided to stay because of posts like
> > Howard\'s. He is someone people listen to, or should I say someone I
> listen
> > to. Chuck and Pricilla also fall in that same list. There are a few
> others,
> > but just naming these few are why I will continue to remain here and only
> > occasionally posting a note. The bottom line is, they actually teach. I
> > reason things by saying the other\'s will get tired and eventually leave
> or
>
> > grow up. I would rather read Howard\'s \"crotchety\" replies anyday to
> some
> > other\'s.
> >
> > Just my opinion...
> > Jennifer Cribbs
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (this is really me and yes, I pay money for this)
> >
> >
> > >I\\\'m really bothered by posts from anonymous or unverifiable email
> > >addresses that slam companies, countries, authors, immigration
> > >policies, and rumors about planned Cisco attacks. When I make a
> > >public post, there\\\'s no question who is making it.
> > >
> > >Is this Berkowitz just being crotchety, or does this mean anything to
> > >anyone\\\'s career? I think the latter. In the IETF, for example,
> > >there are people who have a lifelong reputation of trying to Do The
> > >Right Thing. Paul Vixie and Vint Cerf, for example, are people whose
> > >reputations are such that they can make comments about a competitor
> > >and have their statement accepted as true to the best of their
> > >knowledge.
> > >
> > >Perhaps not at entry level, where the lower-level certifications are
> > >most important, but as one moves to higher levels, reputation is
> > >important. I am NOT saying not to make claims about things that
> > >irritate you. I am saying to do it, when you do, in a manner that
> > >helps your reputation and that of the industry as a whole.
> > >
> > >Personally, I am close to killfiling groupstudy (and other technical)
> > >list posts that originate from throwaway email services such as
> > >hotmail. Here\\\'s my reasoning.
> > >
> > >If you don\\\'t use a free access service (e.g., free dialup/DSL for
> > >advertising), you have to be paying for an ISP, or gaining access via
> > >an employer, academic, or library account.
> > >
> > >An ISP account normally includes POP3 access. The cost of additional
> > >mailboxes normally is trivial, if perhaps you want different
> > >mailboxes for personal and business matters. Even if you need to get
> > >to your personal account from work, many intranets allow external
> > >POP3 connectivity.
> > >
> > >If someone really needs the web-based mail interfaces of a
> > >hotmail-type service rather than using POP3 with any of a number of
> > >email clients (including browsers), I\\\'d really be uncomfortable with
> > >them configuring my routers.
> > >
> > >Believe me, someone who posts from an anonymous account, uses \\\"email
> > >slang\\\" such as \\\"u\\\" rather than \\\"you,\\\" etc., is not
> improving their
> > >image in the industry. And image can\\\'t be ignored completely.
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >\\\"What Problem are you trying to solve?\\\"
> > >***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not
> > >directly to me***
> > >
> > >Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Technical Director, CertificationZone.com
> > >Senior Mgr., IP Protocols & Algorithms, NortelNetworks (for ID only)
> > > but Cisco stockholder!
> > >\\\"retired\\\" Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Have a good day!!!
> Jennifer Cribbs
>
>
>
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