Thanks Jim for those wonderfully encouraging words.

I'll guess I'll just keep the classical music going on then...eh...

Jen

>===== Original Message From Jim Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> =====
>Jennifer, when you get those little 4 numbers and CCIE# in front of them.
>YOU CAN DEMAND your job at YOUR PRICE. (within reason) Cisco don't play
>that, no Homey the clown CCIE's...
>now you can go home...I don't care if it's just the first day....we said GO
>HOME! o yea thanks for the 1000 bucks.
>But...but b.ut don't I get to at least see day two?
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>NOPE. GO HOME.
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>well I paid for it.
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>No you paid for the opportunity to get there once you passed the first day.
>you failed to pass the first day.
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>It could get ugly but I still believe that when you pass
>it'll ALL be worth it.
>
>Jim
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 2:29 PM
>To: Raymond Thomas
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: #1 Gold (was: Any Network Managers out there?) [3:982]
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>You know Raymond...I have never even worked in networking...I just got my
>CCNA.  My head is swelling....
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>"For a prize....when I am a ccie, I want a job."
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>This is great........hehehe
>
>Jennifer Cribbs
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>>===== Original Message From Raymond  Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>SWB =)They are owned by SBC communications and ding ding ding! You are
>>correct! What do you want as a prize?????? ;-)
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>>Raymond Thomas
>>Senior Executive Consultant
>>Concepts In Staffing Inc.
>>9 East 37th Street 2nd Floor
>>New York, N.Y. 10016
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jennifer Cribbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 3:12 PM
>>To: Raymond Thomas
>>Subject: RE: #1 Gold (was: Any Network Managers out there?) [3:982]
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>>My guess is SWB, maybe out of canada. But I definitely think SWB...
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>>Jennifer
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>>>===== Original Message From Raymond  Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>>Everybody, check some archive articles on Cisco and partnership and you
>>will
>>>see who is the largest reseller of Cisco equipment and Cisco powered
>>>Networks. It is not IBM, even though they are also a client of ours ;-)
>>>
>>>Raymond Thomas
>>>Senior Executive Consultant
>>>Concepts In Staffing Inc.
>>>9 East 37th Street 2nd Floor
>>>New York, N.Y. 10016
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>>>From: Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 3:46 PM
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: Re: #1 Gold (was: Any Network Managers out there?) [3:982]
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>>>Since this is probably based on $$$ I would guess IBM Global Services
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>>> wrote in message
>>>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>> People!
>>>      I can't believe you don't know this one...it's a giveaway. Cisco's
>>#1
>>> Gold partner has to be one of two companies...Nortel Networks or
>>>Juniper!!!
>>> Where else would they need 43 CCIE's to fix all the problems with their
>>> products? It's simple. Hehehe, sorry, guess that's just some Friday
>>humor.
>>> On
>>> the serious side. I would guess that it was an ISP so I'm gonna go with
>>> Sprint as being the #1 largest. Just an educated guess though. So what's
>>>the
>>> answer Raymond?  =)
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>>> Mark Z.
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>>> In a message dated 1/11/01 11:41:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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>>> > Hmm, SBC has a bunch of CCIEs.  There's an SBC CCIE in JAX who's
>really
>>> > sharp, almost as sharp as me ;-p
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>>> > -s
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>>> > Raymond Thomas
>>> > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 12:26 AM
>>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > Subject: RE: Any Network Managers out there? [3:982]
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>>> > Not them either!
>>> >
>>> > RT
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Dennis
>>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > Sent: 1/11/01 10:43 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: Any Network Managers out there? [3:982]
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>>> > definately not one of those.
>>> > maybe Equant or BANI or NEC
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>>> > "sfbayer"  wrote in message
>>> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>> > > Who's Cisco's largest gold partner? Lucent? IBM? ATT?
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > "Raymond Thomas"  wrote in message
>>> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>> > > > Funny thing,
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>>> > > > I have the same exact need in NYC too for Cisco's largest Gold
>>> > Partner
>>> > > with
>>> > > > 43 CCIE's on staff ;-)
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Raymond Thomas
>>> > > >
>>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > > From: Lisa Felner
>>> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > > > Sent: 1/10/01 7:00 PM
>>> > > > Subject: RE: Any Network Managers out there? [3:982]
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>>> > > > Actually Chuck, the manager does not need to be the techical
>>expert.
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>>> > > > my client is looking for is a true Engineering Manager.  The
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>>> > > > handle the coordination of pre-sales engineers and post-sales
>>> > engineers,
>>> > > > reviews, client satisfaction, paperwork approvals and hiring, and
>>so
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>>> > > > Making sure that the company is meeting budget, visiting with
>>> > clients to
>>> > > > assure their satisfaction and so on.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > The CCIE's and Sr. Network engineers that report to the manager
>are
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>>> > > > ones
>>> > > > that need to be REALLY technical.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > So, if your are the technical person that it sounds to me are you,
>>> > then
>>> > > > this
>>> > > > may not be the right spot for you.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > However, if you are an experience manager that has had experience
>>> > > > managing
>>> > > > technical people we may have somthing to discuss.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Thanks for your message.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Lisa
>>> > > > Chuck Larrieu wrote:
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>>> > > > > Positions like this intrigue me, but probably not for the
>>> > > > > reasons you all
>>> > > > > might think.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Back in my days as a tech dept manager, the thing I absolutely
>>> > > > > hated the
>>> > > > > most was the management parts - the reviews, the approvals, the
>>> > > > > bill paying,
>>> > > > > all that crap. I found the more my department grew, the less
>>> > > > > fun I was
>>> > > > > having because I wasn't really doing the hands on that got me
>>> > > > > there.
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>>> > > > > Also, over the years, I have come to believe that good
>>> > > > > technology skills are
>>> > > > > not necessary a part of good management skills.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > In other words, when I see a post like this, I still ask myself
>>> > > > > - how
>>> > > > > necessary is it for the manager to be the ultimate expert on
>>> > > > > the technical
>>> > > > > aspects of the job? I.e. the manager is the CCIE and the
>>> > > > > department is
>>> > > > > CCNP's and CCNA's. to be truthful, I begin to get the feeling
>>> > > > > that this may
>>> > > > > be somewhat inverted, in terms of best use of the skill set.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Anyone?
>>> > > > >
>>> >
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