Hmm, you have a point there, plus you have to recertify your spec's every 2
years, where you can wait 3 years on CCNA, CCDA, CCNP and CCDP. So if you
take the 1 exam for the CCNA or 5 exams for the CCNP, you can keep the cert
3 years, but if you add 4 exams to become CCNA/CCNP + Security, you can only
keep that 2 years, and will have to retake all 4 security.

This could be written as a program with a very simple pseudo code:

        recertify       

        repeat
          study
        until certified
        
        repeat until cert expired

        goto recertify

The only way that this would make sense is to look at it this way. After you
have achieved your CCNA or CCNP, you have to prepare for 4 security exams,
which could take a year to get. That way, both your CCNA/CCNP and security
will be good for 2 years after you have achieved the security. That way,
they will expire at the same time. If they both would retire after 2 (or 3)
years, the CCNA/CCNP would expire before the security specialization, and
you cannot have the title NOT CCNA + Security :-)

Anyway, we can talk about this for hours, but it probably wont change
anything. You just have to make your own decision if you want to spend the
time and money on getting the extra certifications, or if you want to sit
and complain about it without the cert.

Right now, I am concentrating on getting my CCNP done. Then I can start
thinking about my next move: CCDA, CCDP, specialization(s).

Take care and have a great weekend,

Ole

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 RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 1:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ole Drews Jensen
Subject: Re: Specialization for CCNA (in case you're not aware of it)


Interesting indeed, but a thought when I read the Security Spec page......

recertification, it states that to recertify that you:

"take and pass the current version of appropriate security exams." <==
plural!!

I know literally that means you need to re-take 4 exams!

CCNP only requires 640-519 - one exam but it took 6 exams to get there.

Does this make sense, that a spec requires more re-certification than the
base cert?

Kevin Wigle

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ole Drews Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 12:21 PM
Subject: Specialization for CCNA (in case you're not aware of it)


> Some of you might find this interesting:
>
> You can now take the Security Specialization if you're CCNA - you don't
need
> to be a CCNP.
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/special1/course.html
>
> Happy Studying,
>
> Ole
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  http://www.CiscoKing.com
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>  http://www.oledrews.com/job

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