Folks, Please be aware that if you buy one of these MAUs listed below you will need to use the proprietary weird ugly IBM cables with the MAU. You can't use standard cat 5 cables. Just thought you should know. You can buy the cables off of eBay of course, and if you do, these MAUs work quite well for a Cisco lab. John Day FWIW, I just make contact with the folks below. The have MAU for $5 + $5 shipping. I don't know these folks from Adam, but I ordered one a couple of days ago. I figure even if it doesn't work out I'm only out $10. The following is the email I got from them: -----Original Message----- From: Computer Surgeons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 5:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: I have several IBM 8228 Token ring hubs. no scratches, etc. on them but not still in the boxes. We are in the business of buying liquidations from COMPUSA Office Depot, etc. and these were found in the liquidation. If you would like it, I will sell each for $ 5.00 plus 5.00 for shipping, I will make a deal if you want all. I accept Pay Pal, Visa, Money Order, MC, cash, personal check, etc. You can call me at: Michael Griebe Computer Surgeons 1-877-551-5479 Computer Surgeons 445 Lexington Road Versailles, Kentucky 40383 -----Original Message----- From: Mark Rose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 8:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MAU I was just given a Cisco 2504 router to use. I know I need to connect it to a mau. What do I look for & how much should it cost? TIA Mark Rose _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]