Ok, this is completely baking my noodle. If someone can solve this, I will fly to your location and kiss you on the forehead. Here is the layout: RouterA has two frame relay PVCs, point to point, that go to router B. EIGRP is running on one link but not the other. (RIP is running on routerA but is not currently being used on any links.) We have static routes for the traffic we want to take the second PVC. At router A I have the following: ip route 10.2.50.70 255.255.255.255 10.2.70.75 50 ip route 10.2.50.70 255.255.255.255 10.1.111.60 100 ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 Null0 (don't ask why this is here, it just is <g>) 10.2.50.70 is the loopback address of router B, and 10.2.70.75 is the IP address at Router B's second PVC. 10.1.111.60 is the secondary dial backup route. So far, so good. Now for the part that is completely freakin' me out. The entire circuit at A that has the second PVC to B goes down, and subsequently all PVCs on that circuit go down. The main circuit and its associated PVCs are still up. Remember, eigrp is running on this link. So... 10.2.70.75 is no longer available, that PVC is down. That static route is removed from the routing table. There should now be an eigrp-learned route with an AD of 90 for 10.2.50.70 on the main PVC. This is NOT happening! I do a show ip route 10.2.50.70 and I get the following: RouterA#show ip route 10.2.50.70 Routing entry for 10.0.0.0/8 Known via "static", distance 1, metric 0 (connected) Redistributing via eigrp 1, rip Advertised by eigrp 1 rip Routing Descriptor Blocks: * directly connected, via Null0 Route metric is 0, traffic share count is 1 The secondary static route is also not in use because in this scenario, the remote branch circuit is not completely down, and dial backup has not occured. All of their other PVCs are up. Now, take a look at this: RouterA#sho ip eigrp topo 10.2.50.0 255.255.255.0 IP-EIGRP topology entry for 10.2.50.0/24 State is Passive, Query origin flag is 1, 1 Successor(s), FD is 2297856 Routing Descriptor Blocks: 10.2.10.75 (Serial1/1.27), from 10.2.10.75, Send flag is 0x0 Composite metric is (2297856/128256), Route is Internal Vector metric: Minimum bandwidth is 1544 Kbit Total delay is 25000 microseconds Reliability is 255/255 Load is 12/255 Minimum MTU is 1500 Hop count is 1 There is a valid route in the topology table, but it is not being entered into the routing table. Why not? Why is it choosing the less specific 10.0.0.0/8 route to Null0? Ok, now it gets even stranger... Remember the static routes, one with an AD of 50 and the other with an AD of 100? Once I removed them manually by typing no ip route 10.2.50.70 etc., the valid route in the eigrp topology table was entered into the routing table. What difference does this make? Those static routes weren't even being used because the next hop addresses were unreachable. Why did the router wait for me to remove them manually before it entered the dynamically learned route into the table? I just do not understand this behavior, and it is certainly not what I would expect. I have a couple of guesses, but I can't follow them to any logical conclusion. Might this have something to do with the fact that the primary route is a static host route and not a route for a specific subnet? Might this behave differently if I change the static route to 10.2.50.0 255.255.255.0? Then it would match exactly to the route available in the topology table. I don't see why that matters, but who knows... Also, RIP is being redistributed into eigrp. We haven't finished implementing RIP yet, but it is configured on routerA. We will be adding some 675 model routers later and they can only do RIP. I don't see how this would affect things, but perhaps it is. Please, please, someone....help me before my brain completely melts down! Many thousands of thanks, John _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]