Hey, anyone who quotes Samuel Johnson during a Cisco training wins my heart. They gotta
let you back in NewYork!
Cheers,
Lori
"No, no. Hodge shall not be eaten!"



"Howard C. Berkowitz" wrote:

> >
> I got into significant trouble with Cisco marketing/political
> correctness when I used one of my personal mnemonics for remembering
> some of their standard presentation icons.  Referring to the crossed
> and somewhat crooked arrows on the standard ATM switch icon, I
> commented that the graphic always reminded me of "a swastika drawn by
> a dyslexic Nazi."  Hey -- that's really the way I remember it.
>
> The Cisco regional VP for New York banned me from speaking at any
> events under his jurisdiction.
>
> In all fairness, when I worked with training partners, Worldwide
> Training generally let me get away with more "unauthorized" or
> "inappropriate" comments than they allowed for most CCSI's. Such
> things as "This protocol slide is wrong. Remember, for purposes of
> exams, how it is explained here -- and let me go to the board and
> show you how it actually works."  Or, "product XXX or feature YYY
> isn't always a good thing to use, but it is better than the
> competition."
>
> But there's definitely been a tendency, over the nine years or so
> I've worked with Cisco materials, to see increased concern over image
> and political correctness, and less with technical content.  When I
> say "materials," I'm talking about courseware and seminars, not the
> very accurate discussions with Cisco engineers on mailing lists, the
> IETF, NANOG, etc.  Cisco was once a technology-driven company, but
> the reality is that it's now a marketing-driven company.  That's not
> necessarily right or wrong, but it is a reality.
>
> >hehehehe....you might get a few raised eyebrows in your classes for that
> >one!
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >Bradley J. Wilson
> >Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 5:01 AM
> >To: cisco
> >Subject: Re: LOL
> >
> >
> >I find myself sitting here wondering if I could actually say this in my
> >classes...I'm already pushing the envelope I think by using the "Princess Di
> >Never Tried to Sleep with Prince Andrew" mnemonic for the OSI Model, and one
> >of these days I'm going to have someone from PETA in my class when I use the
> >old "frog in a blender" joke when discussing the difference between hashing
> >and encryption...
> >
> >Political correctness: it can be your friend, and it can be your enemy.
> >
> >BJ
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Dennis Laganiere
> >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> >Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 9:16 PM
> >Subject: FW: LOL
> >
> >
> >How about this from:
> >http://cramsession.brainbuzz.com/cramsession/cisco/ccie_written/
> >
> >"Split horizon - If a router has received a route advertisement from
> >another router, it will not re-advertise it back to the sending router.
> >Think of this as a sphincter - things are not sent back to where they
> >came from (gross, but you won't forget it, and that's the point)."
> >
> >--- Dennis (the author)
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: anthony kim
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: 02/23/2001 4:35 PM
> >Subject: LOL
> >
> >I was flipping through the Sybex CCDA Study Guide and came upon this
> >in the discussion of LAPB:
> >
> >"Information frames (I-frames) Transport upper-layer information and a
> >bit (no pun intended) of control information. I-frames schlep both
> >send and receive sequence numbers, and relate to jobs such as
> >sequencing, flow control, error detection, and recovery."
> >
> >schlep!
> >
> >Purchase of a CCDA Study Guide online, $30.
> >Yiddish technical jargon, priceless.
> >
> >
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