Hey, anyone who quotes Samuel Johnson during a Cisco training wins my heart. They gotta let you back in NewYork! Cheers, Lori "No, no. Hodge shall not be eaten!" "Howard C. Berkowitz" wrote: > > > I got into significant trouble with Cisco marketing/political > correctness when I used one of my personal mnemonics for remembering > some of their standard presentation icons. Referring to the crossed > and somewhat crooked arrows on the standard ATM switch icon, I > commented that the graphic always reminded me of "a swastika drawn by > a dyslexic Nazi." Hey -- that's really the way I remember it. > > The Cisco regional VP for New York banned me from speaking at any > events under his jurisdiction. > > In all fairness, when I worked with training partners, Worldwide > Training generally let me get away with more "unauthorized" or > "inappropriate" comments than they allowed for most CCSI's. Such > things as "This protocol slide is wrong. Remember, for purposes of > exams, how it is explained here -- and let me go to the board and > show you how it actually works." Or, "product XXX or feature YYY > isn't always a good thing to use, but it is better than the > competition." > > But there's definitely been a tendency, over the nine years or so > I've worked with Cisco materials, to see increased concern over image > and political correctness, and less with technical content. When I > say "materials," I'm talking about courseware and seminars, not the > very accurate discussions with Cisco engineers on mailing lists, the > IETF, NANOG, etc. Cisco was once a technology-driven company, but > the reality is that it's now a marketing-driven company. That's not > necessarily right or wrong, but it is a reality. > > >hehehehe....you might get a few raised eyebrows in your classes for that > >one! > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > >Bradley J. Wilson > >Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 5:01 AM > >To: cisco > >Subject: Re: LOL > > > > > >I find myself sitting here wondering if I could actually say this in my > >classes...I'm already pushing the envelope I think by using the "Princess Di > >Never Tried to Sleep with Prince Andrew" mnemonic for the OSI Model, and one > >of these days I'm going to have someone from PETA in my class when I use the > >old "frog in a blender" joke when discussing the difference between hashing > >and encryption... > > > >Political correctness: it can be your friend, and it can be your enemy. > > > >BJ > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Dennis Laganiere > >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > >Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 9:16 PM > >Subject: FW: LOL > > > > > >How about this from: > >http://cramsession.brainbuzz.com/cramsession/cisco/ccie_written/ > > > >"Split horizon - If a router has received a route advertisement from > >another router, it will not re-advertise it back to the sending router. > >Think of this as a sphincter - things are not sent back to where they > >came from (gross, but you won't forget it, and that's the point)." > > > >--- Dennis (the author) > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: anthony kim > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: 02/23/2001 4:35 PM > >Subject: LOL > > > >I was flipping through the Sybex CCDA Study Guide and came upon this > >in the discussion of LAPB: > > > >"Information frames (I-frames) Transport upper-layer information and a > >bit (no pun intended) of control information. I-frames schlep both > >send and receive sequence numbers, and relate to jobs such as > >sequencing, flow control, error detection, and recovery." > > > >schlep! > > > >Purchase of a CCDA Study Guide online, $30. > >Yiddish technical jargon, priceless. > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > >_________________________________ > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >_________________________________ > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >_________________________________ > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >_________________________________ > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]