You left out Col. Saunders! hahahahah More important what is the average age of someone asking the question in the first place?? "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Jess: > > > >Not to worry, I contacted AARP and was assured we can get a "senior > >discount" on > >blueberries and no-doze so we can compete with these young > >whipper-snappers! :) > > > >Tom Lisa, Instructor, CCNA, CCAI > >Community College of Southern Nevada > >Cisco Regional Networking Academy > > > You contacted the AppleTalk Address Resolution Protocol? > > More seriously, some stereotyping is floating around. I'm thinking > of one of the most charismatic, impatient to fools yet committed to > teaching those willing to learn, and out-of-the-box crazy thinkers > I've ever met: Grace Murray Hopper. Gee...I may have met her when > she wasn't even 70 yet. > > I was saddened by an obituary I ran across today: Claude Shannon. > Shannon was the father of modern information theory. Shannon died on > February 24, of Alzheimer's disease...which must have had to work > very hard to conquer such a mind. Having passed earlier, but also > not to be forgotten, was Norbert Wiener. We throw around the > buzzword "cyber" so freely these days, but we forget Wiener was the > person who formally defined "cybernetics." > > On a brighter note, involving even older people who are still vidal > and active,Vint Cerf is the only person that does attend the IETF in > a three-piece suit, which is treated as an honorary T-shirt. > > I can see someone young in years resenting a Dilbert-style manager > who holds their position by playing corporate games. But don't leap > to conclusions -- someone who simply is "older" might very well be > more technical. > > MCI's ads about Generation D thoroughly annoy me, with their talk of > "Generation D," the first generation that's grown up digital. > Ummm...take a look at a wonderful book called _The Victorian > Internet_. While there is debate about the 1790-ish French semaphore > system being digital in the modern sense, the Morse telegraph in 1845 > is digital (if you'll include pulse width modulation in the > definition and had recognizable protocols. I don't know, offhand, > when the teletypewriter was invented, but Nyquist's theorems on > bandwidth were published in 1928. > > Depending on how you define "computer" (does it need a stored > program, or self-modifiable program?), the first digital computer was > late-1930 (Eckert & Mauchly, and the independent German developer > whose name escapes me), or around 1950 with Von Neumann machines. > FORTRAN was available in 1956 or so, admittedly when the head of IBM > thought there would be a national market for about 6 computers. > There were packet networks in the early 1970s. > > Exactly when did "Generation D" start? > > Some of us older folk have been getting better at this for a long, > long time, and haven't slowed down. Might have changed emphasis. > > > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> Tom: > >> > >> You are not alone; I just turned 50 on Thursday and am working on > >>my CCNA and > >> hope to test in June, then go on for my CCNP. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Jess > > > MCP > > _________________________________ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]