>>hmm, I guess this means that you wouldn't hire me, eh, Howard?
>Well, can you phrase this as "full employment for consultants?"
All seriousness aside, I actually meant as an employee -- not as a
consultant :)
> With a tired, triumphant,
> yet demented look, he announced: "Yes, it is obvious."
LOL.
You've been eavesdropping on some of my math sessions with my children,
haven't
you. I've learned more about the foundations of arithmetic since I had
kids than I
did studying math in school :)
>There is a poorly documented corollary of Murphy's Law that establishes
>that idiots inherit the work of the clever.
Right.
But I would assume that that doesn't mean that you are deprecating
cleverness,
per se (after all, cleverness is the Aunt of invention) but, maybe just
want to
leave cleverness where it belongs -- in the lab :)
I tend to go for the clever first and, then, after proving that it
works, start to
worry about the potential obfuscation (not to mention the phone calls)
and change to
a more "self-documenting" route.
So, one moment I might code the single ACL;
the next I would change it to the "self-documenting" two-statement ACL.
(In fact, I would agree that you could easily argue that the second
is the more
elegant since it kills two birds with one stone:
functionality
and no extra documentation :)
)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Howard C. Berkowitz
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 11:35 AM
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Subject: RE: wildcard in access-list
> >Why?
To which Bob Vance responded,
>
>Less processing.
CPU power is cheaper than brainpower, downtime through errors,
etc.
>Elegance :)
I've always regarded an elegant solution as one that is necessary
and sufficient for all criteria. Maintainability is a criterion.
A professor, in his* Tuesday class, droned on "it is obvious that
XXX
is ZZZ."
A student responded, "Professor, are you sure it is obvious?"
A look of professorial alarm. "Class dismissed."
On Thursday, the class returned to find their professor still at
the
board, fairly obviously unwashed and unshaven since Tuesday,
perhaps
nourished only by incessant cups of coffee. With a tired,
triumphant,
yet demented look, he announced: "Yes, it is obvious."
* choice of pronoun gender deliberate. This is a guy thing**, the
academic version of refusing to ask for directions.
** a female professor, however, might want to share the experience of
confusion.
>Cleverness :)
There is a poorly documented corollary of Murphy's Law that
establishes
that idiots inherit the work of the clever.
Military organizations have much folklore about this. In working
with
US Navy personnel, I learned the valid distinctions between
idiot-proofing
and sailor-proofing. Or, as it is said, the five most dangerous
things
in the Canadian Navy:
-- Ordinary Seamen saying: "I learned this in Boot Camp"
-- Petty Officers saying "Trust me, sir"
-- Sublieutenants saying "Based on my experience"
-- Lieutenants saying "I was just thinking"
-- Chiefs saying "Watch this [output traffic from male cow]"
>More documentation ~%[
>
>I love that sort of stuff --
>hmm, I guess this means that you wouldn't hire me, eh, Howard?
Well, can you phrase this as "full employment for consultants?"
In all fairness, there is a regrettable Cisco tendency to teach and
test for obscurity.
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