The only best book I thought was Hutnik's CCIE Lab Guide because it gives you hands-on. I loved it and it inspired me. Are there any other books of that caliber? Respectfully rtc9 need an engine? http://members.home.com/rtc9/BENZ.html _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]