It's clear you won't be able to renew your CCNP or CCDP if you already have it, but has anyone heard of a deadline for completing these if you are somewhere in the middle of the process? Or, am I misunderstanding this new certification intiative? My read is that CCNP/CCDP designations are going away. Knowledgeable comments would be appreciated. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/pdf/CQS.pdf http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/cqs/cqs_faq.pdf Excerts from the above links: "Each Cisco Qualified Specialist designation is customized to meet current market needs. Individuals may earn designations in as many technical areas as they choose. Over time, and in response to new technology developments, Cisco will create additional designations. Note: Candidates for the Cisco Qualified Specialist designation must hold a valid associate-level certification. Current CCNP™ or CCDP™ specializations are valid until their expiration date. Individuals with expired CCNP or CCDP specializations may choose to test for a Cisco Qualified Specialist designation, if one is available, in their preferred field." "6. What happens to the Cisco CCNP or CCDP specializations I already earned? Previously earned specializations will remain active for a period of two years from the date achieved. There will be no recertification option. At that point, you may choose to test for a Cisco Qualified Specialist, if one is offered, in your preferred field." Brad _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]