One thing to remember, big companies are BIG on TITLES!!!.. We have a
"NETWORK ENGINEER" who is as dumb as tree stump. Its just a title another
words.....And yes it is hard to know everything. I don't think there is one
person who knows everything they studied in their cert a year later. You'll
forget something, and it will be the stuff that you don't use very often.
"Scott Ramos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I took Cisco approved courses through a Cisco Premier Training Partner
> about a year and a half
> ago. I took ICRC, ACRC, CMTD, CLSC, and CIT. On the first day, the
> instructor would have
> everyone say a little about who they were and what they did. Of all the
> students in all the
> coursed, only two, myself and one other, were there on their own. All
> the others were sent by
> their employers. Most had been Network Engineers for over
> two years, and several had been Network Engineers for over five years.
> Some of the companies
> represented were Disney, Universal Studios, GTE (Verison), and various
> regional and national
> financial institutions. In general, the more experience these people
> had, the more confidence
> they portrayed on the first day, but by the middle of the week, most of
> these same seasoned and
> experienced Network Engineers were understanding the
> material and performing the labs no better than those with less (or even
> no) experience. Many
> times they would say things like
> "Oh, that explains why we were experiencing that problem on our network"
> or "Boy, did I find
> that out the hard way!" or "We don't use that protocol on our network,
> so this is all new to
> me" or "So, that's why thus and such works that way" or "Can you
> explain subnetting again?".
> On that first day, when we introduce ourselves, I would say that I had
> been a PC Tech and had
> no experience, but was looking to become a CCNP and find
> employment as a Network Engineer and had already completed courses in
> Novell. Someone would
> almost always say "Why don't you get a job, work a while and have your
> employer send you?".
> Often, when they would introduce themselves, they would talk about how
> they had been trying to
> take this course, but had to reschedule several times because of this
> project or that outage,
> but by the end of almost every course, one of them would
> say how they wished they could go through all the courses and get
> certified the way I was
> (except for having to pay for it themselves, of course), and that even
> though the course was
> great, and would help them tremendously at work, they wouldn't have the
> time to study and
> become certified. The others would nod in agreement.
> I know there is no substitution for experience, but I think it is
> important to remember that
> the courses are designed to provide the students with the benifit of
> those who have extensive
> experience. These courses don't exist in a vacume. The writers of the
> Cisco self study
> materials are written by true Experts. Will courses teach you
> everything you will come across
> on the job? Of course not. But from what I learned interacting
> with 40 or so Network Engineers from a wide variety of industries, what
> you learn in persuit of
> a CCNP is valuable and will continue to be.
> Well, I have to get back to studying for my Microsoft 70-221 test ...
>
> Scott A. Ramos A+, CNA, CNE, (4.11 & 5.0), CCNA, CCNP
>
>
>
>
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