John,

I got both your emails, sorry that I did not respond to you right away.
Listen, when you are ready, let me know.  Like I said before, we are always
looking for talent.

Later,

Will

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
John Neiberger
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 9:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CCIE Lab Candidate???? [Formerly no subject]


Hmmm.....someone woke up in a pissy mood today!  I won't flame you back
because I had a Monday just like that last week and lots of people
mentioned it to me.

Studying for the lab and studying for the written aren't mutually
exclusive.  In fact, using lab equipment helps to solidify understanding
of certain concepts that will be on the written.  It's *always* better
to have done something than to have read something.

Also, perhaps the original poster is like me: limited budget and wants
to get the most bang for the buck.  If a large number of respondents
said 'Forget a home lab, go with Joe Shmoe's Labs', then he could budget
accordingly.   In my opinion, if you've got about $10,000-12,000 I'd
suggest getting your own stuff to play with at home.  It's tough to beat
the experience you get when you can play around without worrying about
breaking a production network!  :-)

I haven't had any coffee yet so I'll cut this short and let some others
make more specific suggestions.

Good luck!

John

>>> "Greg Macaulay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4/5/01 6:34:35 AM >>>
Perhaps I'm missing something  (but I am in a bad mood this AM -- and
this
is my first Flame) -- or maybe you are?? But did you somehow get a
waiver
from John Chambers personally so you don't have to sit for and pass the
CCIE
written???????

As for being a CCNP, CCDP, it would seem that by this time you would
have at
least some of the answers to your questions!!  Normally, these
questions are
asked by newbies like CCNA Candidates, or those working towards the
CCNP.
But by the time one reaches the NP/DP level one would expect at least
some
familiarization with the process.

Have you ever heard of the CCIE Blueprint??

But then again, this is just MY opinion!!!!

Greg Macaulay

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Brian Ravert
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:


Gentlemen:

I am a CCDP,CCNP ready to begin study for the R&S lab. Can anyone give
us
some
practical direction as to :
1.) recommendations for formal study ( for ex.  CCIE bootcamp)
2.) Is it advisable to have a home lab ? URL to an equipment list ?
Insights
as
to ballpark costs?
3.) Advise from some veterans ?

Thanks

Brian Ravert
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