/begin babble

Well, It depends. ;-)

We are currently going through a similar (design) issue.  One of the major
issues of naming is scalability, because much like the network design itself
it can be a real pain later --if not planned for.  Businesses buy other
businesses, sites relocate, become dual homed, etc.  We are _mostly_ a hub
and spoke network for our regions & branches.  So for quite a while we used
a geographical area (self created) to identify the major node, then a name,
then an increment number.
EX: 17rtr01 (Area 17, router # 01) (Atlanta)
Then branch offices hanging off this regional router were as such:
EX: 1701rt1 (Area 17, Sub area 1 router # 01) (Columbia SC)

Then their respective switches (we have a lot of token ring & a growing
number of Ether) were as such:
EX: 17mdf-s001 (Area 17 Main Distro Frame Switch 1) with no idea if it was
TR/ET
EX: 17idf6a-s001 (Area 17 6th floor Int. Distro Frame Switch 1) with no idea
if it was TR/ET

Now: one of the bigger problems with this is--> what happens when you start
to go to a meshed network.  Doesn't follow as neatly. 1701rt1 is now hanging
off of both 17rt01 and 14rt01.  And like I said, b. buy other b.
Overlapping networks (NATing private IPs), etc start making things kinda
crazy until you get it sorted out.
Then later on because sites come & go (networks seem to always be in flux)
you end up with 17rtr01, 1701rt1,1704rt1, & 1707rt1 and the new folks are
wondering where is 1702, 1703, 1705 & 1706.

So what we are now extremely close to finalizing is something along these
lines:
ATL-RT1 (we'll _never_ have more than 9 routers in Atlanta)
ATL-MDF-ES01 Atlanta MDF Ethernet Switch 1 (these are stackable Nortel 450s
& we'll never have more than 99--and five nines chance never more than 9)
ATL-MDF-TS01 Atlanta MDF T/R Switch 1
ATL-MDF-SP01 Atlanta MDF StackProbe 1
ATL-I6A-ES01 Atlanta IDF floor 6A, Ether Sw 1
etc.etc.
Now, that takes care of both the regions & branches hanging off them (along
with a Big E5 size drawing of the network).

So: what about a pretty large Data Center.  250 Racks.  One 6509 for every
for racks.   So here is what we did there:

RDC-CS-S001     Redmond Data Center Core Switch 1
RDC-CS-S002     RDC Core Switch 2
RDC-CS-RT1      RDC Core Switch Router 1 MSFC slot 15 
RDC-CS-RT2      RDC Core Switch Router 2
RDC-CS-RTV1     RDC Core Switch HSRP IP address of RT1/RT2 External
interface  (V for virtual)
RDC-CS-RTV2     RDC CS HSRP IP address of RT1/RT2 Internal interface
RDC-GA-S132     RDC General Access (ie: servers plugged in here @ gig & 100)
Switch located in Rack 132
RDC-GA-S145     RDC Gen. Access Sw located in Rack 145 
RDC-DNS1        RDC DNS 1
RDC-HA-BIG1     RDC High Available BigIP (F5 Gear) #1
RDC-HA-BIG2     RDC HA BigIP (F5 Gear) #2
RDC-HA-BIGV1    RDC HA BigIP (F5 Gear) Vitual Interface External
RDC-HA-DNS1     RDC HA DNS 1

Then there is stuff like DMZs (or is that DMZzzzzzz), Partner connections,
etc.

Basically it takes a bit of planning. ;-)
HTH & good luck,

/end babble
TroyC


-----Original Message-----
From: LeBrun, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 2:01 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Router/Switch naming standards


Group,
        I am curious to know the opinions on what are some of the better
naming standards used to name routers/switches?  I have heard of several
(using local airport codes being the most common, i.e. PDX001(Portland) or
ATL001(Atlanta)).  And then of course incrementing the number each time you
add a router/switch.  Any suggestions?

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