>4/9/2001   3:33pm  Monday
>
>I teach a 40 hour CCNA class @ a local provider here in the Chicago
>suburbs & can assure you there are plenty of teachers out there
>(including me) who do not have the scores or time to achieve CCSI.
>I feel like I do a great job with my students based on 
>
>1] their response
>2] my experience with the CCNA, CCNP, & CCIE written
>3] my own REAL WORD day job experience

But the job you do is irrelevant to Cisco.  There's an old saying, 
there's a right way, a wrong way, and a Navy way.  CCSI is the Cisco 
way.

>
>If I had the CCSI  I would probably be working for Cisco [or recently
>laid of by Cisco

No, there are very few CCSIs that work directly for Cisco.  They 
outsource most of their internal training to training partners.


>
>
>Richard
>
>//
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:48 AM
>To: Howard C. Berkowitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: CCSI? Help
>
>
>I checked into a this myself & the "generally" local Prometrics require
>a
>test teach, pass-able resume outlining real world experience @ your
>cert.
>level, & @ least (can't remember the figure) either 80 to 90% score (per
>category) on the cert you are teaching.  The CCSI is if you intend on
>becoming a Cisco trainer, but not required just to teach the Cisco
>topics
>(in a majority of places).  I gathered this information by checking a
>handful of offices here in DC.  I'm sure it's not 100% for every area,
>but I
>know many of places do not have CCSI trainers (with the exception of
>Global
>Knowledge & maybe some of the Cisco Network Academy's).  I was turned
>off a
>little by the Network Academy approach, mainly because their
>requirements
>seemed so far off from real world.  A lot of the requirements to teach
>the
>CCNA topics are based away from the actual exam itself (wiring a patch
>panel, how a CO is set up, etc.).  One of the fellows @ a Prometric said
>they require a minimum of the N+ to sign up for the class.  In this
>respect,
>you shouldn't have to carry the student through the first few
>sections...
>
>Good question, I'm awaiting more replies...
>Phil
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 5:49 PM
>Subject: Re: CCSI? Help
>
>
>>  >Hi Everyone,
>>  >I've gone through  Cisco's website to get information as to how one
>will
>>  >achieve the CCSI(Cisco Certified Systems Instructor), but I didn't
>really
>>  >find any.
>>  >
>>  >I will be very much grateful if any "active" CCSI give me information
>>  >regarding the CCSI and how it will enable one who is already a
>CCNP/DP to
>>  >train CCNP's ,CCDP's and other Cisco technical courses.
>>  >Thanks very much.
>>  >Zaki
>>
>>
>>  You must be sponsored by a Cisco training partner, either as an
>>  employee or contractor.  No other way to do it.  CCSI certifications
>>  "belong" to the partner, not the individual -- if you change
>>  partners, the new partner has to pay for recertification.
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