ISAKMP (0:16): deleting SA reason "He's expired! He's lost his perch! He's an ex-parrot!" state (R) QM_IDLE I was working on a VPN setup for a customer a few months ago. I forgot what Cisco equipment gave me this debug output. I know it's from Monty Python but I can't remember if it was a 3000 series concentrator, PIX, or router. Anyone seen this? Eric M Lange Sr Technical Support Engineer QWEST Communications Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1252&t=1252 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]