Actually, VoIP works very well, at least with my provider.  I've got
PacBell/SBC ADSL at home (384k down, 128k up, although down bursts way
beyond that).  Right now I'm using an 827 with an IPSEC tunnel into a
customer's office where they have a Cisco CallManager cluster, and gateways
out to their ISDN PRI and other branches with FXO POTS access.  During the
setup we initially used public IPs (VoIP doesn't work through NAT presently)
and my 1605R and tested and using G.711 it was a little choppy at times.
Once I got an 827 and we got G.729a compression turned on, it now sounds
great (I think the 827 is either faster and/or having it directly connected
to my ADSL cuts out one more device (the ADSL Westell bridge I have)).  QoS
helped as well (vs. all the other outbound traffic at my office), and
tunneling actually helped more (bypasses the firewall on both ends).  I can
call out 18 different locations as a "local call" and it sounds great
(they're using FR internally between sites).

We're working on getting a few copies of CallManager for our own lab use
(that can install on any box), and when I do I'll put up some info on how to
connect for those that want to try (IPSEC tunnel first, then using Cisco's
IP SoftPhone on your PC).

I actually spent about 3 hours cleaning up my home rack last night (doesn't
have threaded holes, so I had to get more nuts and bolts to mount devices),
and when my Wife walked in, she couldn't believe it was the same equipment
all still connected (all the wires are hidden by wire management).  We took
some pictures "before" and "after" and I'll post them when they get
developed.

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Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+
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""Mark Odette II""  wrote in message
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> Here's the scoop on the 1750s:
> the Base Model 1750 has 4MB Flash, and 16MB RAM, and an empty DSP slot
> behind a LED riser card on the system board.  With a Voice Upgrade kit,
you
> can add on the DSP chip (which looks like a proprietary DIMM, but its not)
> and you get an 8MB Flash chip and 32MB RAM chip to swap out with the old
> ones... and you essentially have the 4/8 chips spare on hand.  You also
get
> the IOS on CD for IP Plus.
>
> the 1750-2V has the Voice Upgrade kit already installed, with the Voice
> Image already installed too; you just don't have the left-over 4/8 chips
on
> hand.
>
> the 1750-4v is all inclusive of the 2v, but it has a second slot on the
main
> board beside the first one for the DSP chips, and if I remember right,
> they're located in a slightly different location on the board.... I guess
> because of space constraints.
>
> Optionally, you can bump the 1750 up to 16MB Flash, and 48MB RAM for any
of
> the huge images you decide to run.
>
> One nice thing I like about this router is that you can purchase an
> additional 10BT WAN card to put in a WIC slot, and do PPPoE.... and the
last
> I checked (about a month ago on CCO), this feature wasn't supported on any
> other Voice enabled router.  Sweet deal for those who want to buddy up
with
> a pal and try VoIP over the internet with DSL or CableModem.... using a
GRE
> tunnel, of course....   And yes, I'm aware of the QoS issues you have to
> deal with in using the Internet as opposed to a FR or PPP connection...
like
> I said, it would be strictly for experimental/play purposes.
>
> - Mark Odette II
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason J. Roysdon"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 2:48 AM
> Subject: Re: Voice Ready Router [7:1092]
>
>
> > Aren't the xV models just the same thing but with the extra dram/flash
and
> > correct IOS image bundled (and also cheaper than buying them
> individually)?
> > I think that's my recollection on them.
> >
> > --
> > Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+
> > List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/
> >
> >
> >
> > ""Joseph Padian""  wrote in message
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> > > It depends on what model 1750. There are 3 models: 1750, 1750 2V, 1750
> 4V.
> > > The 1750 2V-4V you only need a VIC.
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