couple of things - I'd missed the bridged bit, a routed network would be far
preferrable.

128Mb/s was a typo on my part - should have been 128Kb/s for the 128Kb/s
link - at least I got the transfer time right ;-)

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "KM Reynolds" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 2:22 AM
Subject: Fwd: Re: Sending JPEG across an ISDN bridged link brings the
[7:4116]


> Hi Andy,
>
> Thanks for explanation.  We are currently looking at upgrading the link. I
> am also going to suggest to the customer to change from a bridging
> environment to a routed one.  If the two sites are segmented(enable the
use
> of layer 3) it will enable us to implement QOS.
>
> I have one last question for you or anyone in the group.  The math(in your
> reply e-mail), I was not going to ask this question because I think I
should
> naturally know this.  I understand the "File size" 2Megabytes is equal to
> (2*8) 16 Megabits.  I do not understand the "Transfer time:", how did you
> arrive to 128 Megabits per second?
>
> I am fuzzy on the transfer time formula. If you or someone may explain or
> point me in the direction where I may learn this, I would be grateful
>
> Thank you,
>
> KM
>
>
> >From: "andyh"
> >Reply-To: "andyh"
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Sending JPEG across an ISDN bridged link brings the network
> >[7:3786]
> >Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:06:53 -0400
> >
> >let's do the maths:
> >
> >File size: 2MB = 16Mb
> >
> >Transfer time:  16Mb / 128Mb/s = 125 sec - ie a pretty long lime for
those
> >used to LAN-type speeds
> >
> >a better explanation would be to try to empty a bucket through a pinhole
in
> >the bottom - the point being that the data *will* get through
(disregarding
> >application timeouts or similar), whereas you're never going to get a
lemon
> >onto a pop bottle without breaking the bottle or splitting the lemon.
> >
> >one possible solution would be to implemet some sort of queueing -
> >prioritize delay-sensitive traffic (interactive sessions and the like),
and
> >give large file transfers (ftp, http) a lower priority.  Saying that it
> >sounds like you need to get yourself some extra bandwidth - depending
upon
> >your needs you might wish to look at leased lines.  probably time for you
> >to
> >do the maths as to whether you can justify the expense ;-)
> >
> >Andy
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "KM Reynolds"
> >To:
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 1:34 AM
> >Subject: Sending JPEG across an ISDN bridged link brings the network to
> >[7:3720]
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Need the groups advice.
> > >
> > > The network consists of two 1605 routers with 128k ISDN connections in
a
> > > transparent bridge environment.
> > > This network suffers from lockups often,however, not consistently.
> > > Yesterday, speaking with a user, he asked me a question. The question
> >was,
> > > "Why is it when I send a JPEG file to a user located across the ISDN
> >link,
> > > the network come to a halt?".
> > > I told him that if the JPEG was very large in size ex. 2MB, when it
has
> >to
> > > cross the ISDN link, its like trying to squeeze a lemon(a small one)
> >into
> >a
> > > pop bottle(maybe not a good example, but that is all I could think
off).
> > > This saturates the ISDN link which is only 128k.
> > >
> > > Am I correct in my explanation?  What would be a good explanation? I
am
> >not
> > > comfortable with my explanation(maybe I am wrong).  I look forward to
> > > hearing the groups thoughts, as well as any solutions(change to
routing,
> > > QOS, etc.)
> > >
> > > TIA
> > > KM
> > >
> > >
> > >
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