My ISP uses ARAP. Macintoshes dial in using ARAP. There's a DDP/IP gateway that gets them using a "real" protocol. :-) There are some advantages. If the Mac users have a Web site at the ISP, for example, they can drag and drop files to update their Web site using the Chooser and Apple Filing Protocol instead of FTP. AFP is more secure, easier to use, and doesn't hiccup around firewalls. Of course, these Macs could use AFP over IP also and some do. But a bunch of users still dial in with ARAP. Priscilla At 09:33 PM 5/16/01, nrf wrote: >A followup to my previous question on Apollo/CLNS/VINES/XNs > >Has anybody worked on or even seen a network lately (in the past year) that >uses old dial-up technologies like ARAP, NASI, V.120, and/or switched 56? >If so, where have you seen them? >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ________________________ Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4792&t=4792 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]