guys, thanks for your imput ..... yes i was loosely discribing MPLS ...it does have all the functions you state... and more , i must be mistaken about the RVSP because i seem to remeber reading somewhere that cisco is favoring RSVP....and that there LDP is based on this but hey i must be mistaken ......... also the RFC you list does not come up as valid ont the ITEF...please can you re-send this many thanks steve >From: "Marc-Andre Giroux" >Reply-To: "Marc-Andre Giroux" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Isn't MPLS basically just ATM PNNI, but for layer 3? [7:5723] >Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 08:56:43 -0400 > >Steve, > MPLS is alot more then just ATM PNNI at layer 3. Your statement is >semi true when talking about MPLS VPN's the concept does come from ATM but >there is so much more you can do with it go read on traffic engineering, >the >fish bowl effect, valued added services (VPNs) and the network protection. > > As for your other statement saying that cisco uses RSVP and everyone >else doesn't. This also is wrong. Cisco uses TDP wich is a label >distribution protocol that is proprietary but they also support the >standard >LDP (RFC 3630) that Juniper and Everyone else are supporting. Juniper >personnaly doesn't have as much support for LDP then RSVP-TE (rsvp has >existed for a couple of years its the TE extensions that are used in >Traffic >engineering). But when you start talking about this be sure to know what >you >are talking about. BTW you can't use LDP or TDP to do MPLS >traffic-Engineering ( and this is the killer app of MPLS). > > I hope this clarifies a few things, I also hope you don't take this >the wrong way but go read on the juniper site about RSVP-TE it will clarify >alot of things for you. Hope this was helpfull and if you have any >questions >don't be shy. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Stephen Skinner >Sent: May 24, 2001 3:37 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Isn't MPLS basically just ATM PNNI, but for layer 3? >[7:5703] > > >hi, > >i to have been reading alot and working with MPLS..... > >i personally liken it to Switching more than routing >...i know it uses BGP and also uses static routes,but essentially it just >switches packets over pre-defined paths from device to device ....... > >I also see a future for this simply in the Telco enviroment ....everyone >(cisco Juni and foundry are supporting it ...albeit in different >forms..cisc > >is using RSVP and everyone else isn`t) and the speed increases seem to be >worth it.... > > >but as ever only my workload and time will tell. > >steve > > > >From: "nrf" > >Reply-To: "nrf" > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Isn't MPLS basically just ATM PNNI, but for layer 3? [7:5660] > >Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 21:18:21 -0400 > > > >I would like to hear some opinions on MPLS. I have been reading about >it, > >and, pardon me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me like just a reinvention >of > >ATM PNNI. > > > >I would be very interested in hearing some comments on the future of >MPLS. > >Particularly since ATM PNNI seemed to have gotten nowhere with the telcos > >(and I still don't completely understand why not), then why is MPLS going > >to > >do any better (or is it)? > > > >I would be particularly interested in hearing Howard Berkowitz's opinion >on > >the future of MPLS. > > > >Thanx > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=5758&t=5758 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]