(Trying yet again, this time from the web interface): I think my posts are being eaten (usually they show up right away), and perhaps Paul has a filter on the word "Test" (but I doubt it as there seems to be a number of those posts). Anyway, I was setting the 2610 back to half-duplex, then got distracted before I could set the Catalyst back (it was still on full-duplex) and received this error on the 2610 when I returned: May 28 20:18:46.243 PDT: %AMDP2_FE-5-LATECOLL: Ethernet0/0 transmit error Drawing from this, I'm guessing somehow the 2610 e0/0 was really running full-duplex before. Here's the original post (which doesn't look like it ever made it): Odd situation that I'm dinking around with in my lab (actually stalling from getting on with the real IDS lab I should be working on). 2610 router with a 10mbit ethernet port connected to a Catalyst 3524 10/100mbit port. I've configured both sides for 10mbit and full-duplex and brought them out of no shut mode at the same time, cleared counters, and then started up a 100K packets, 1450 bit size, 0 second timeout from another 10mbit router (1605R) also connected to the Catalyst (only running 10/half, though). With that ping session going, here are some of the results: Cat3524b_jroysdon# Cat3524b_jroysdon#sh int f0/22 FastEthernet0/22 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is Fast Ethernet, address is 0004.27dc.6196 (bia 0004.27dc.6196) Description: 2610 e0/0 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10000 Kbit, DLY 1000 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 66/255, rxload 66/255 Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set Keepalive not set Full-duplex, 10Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 Last input 00:00:08, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:04:32 Queueing strategy: fifo Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops 30 second input rate 2622000 bits/sec, 225 packets/sec 30 second output rate 2623000 bits/sec, 226 packets/sec 29741 packets input, 43430219 bytes Received 93 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored 0 watchdog, 93 multicast 0 input packets with dribble condition detected 29771 packets output, 43454247 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out Cat3524b_jroysdon#sh cdp neigh det ------------------------- Device ID: c2610_jroysdon.internal.artoo.net Entry address(es): IP address: 192.168.45.252 Platform: cisco 2610, Capabilities: Router Interface: FastEthernet0/22, Port ID (outgoing port): Ethernet0/0 Holdtime : 161 sec Version : Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) C2600 Software (C2600-JK9O3S-M), Version 12.2(1), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2) Copyright (c) 1986-2001 by cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Fri 27-Apr-01 16:36 by cmong advertisement version: 2 Duplex: half Cat3524b_jroysdon# *Mar 3 00:24:20.250 PST: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on FastEthern et0/22 (not half duplex), with c2610_jroysdon.internal.artoo.net Ethernet0/0 (half duplex) ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// c2610_jroysdon#sh int e0/0 Ethernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is AmdP2, address is 0003.e39b.5cc0 (bia 0003.e39b.5cc0) Internet address is 192.168.45.252/24 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10000 Kbit, DLY 1000 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 24/255, rxload 24/255 Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:04:30 Queueing strategy: fifo Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 14/75, 0 drops 5 minute input rate 968000 bits/sec, 100 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 967000 bits/sec, 100 packets/sec 30061 packets input, 43689271 bytes, 0 no buffer Received 147 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored 0 input packets with dribble condition detected 29959 packets output, 43659032 bytes, 0 underruns(0/0/0) 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out c2610_jroysdon# sh cdp neigh det ------------------------- Device ID: Cat3524b_jroysdon.internal.artoo.net Entry address(es): IP address: 192.168.43.2 Platform: cisco WS-C3524-PWR-XL, Capabilities: Trans-Bridge Switch Interface: Ethernet0/0, Port ID (outgoing port): FastEthernet0/22 Holdtime : 143 sec Version : Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) C3500XL Software (C3500XL-C3H2S-M), Version 12.0(5.2)XU, MAINTENANCE INTERIM SOFT WARE Copyright (c) 1986-2000 by cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Mon 17-Jul-00 18:29 by ayounes advertisement version: 2 Protocol Hello: OUI=0x00000C, Protocol ID=0x0112; payload len=27, value=00000000FFFFFFFF0 10121FF000000000000000427DC6180FF0002 VTP Management Domain: 'artoo' Duplex: full ------------------------- Device ID: c1605r_unused.internal.artoo.net c2610_jroysdon# May 28 19:32:07.602 PDT: %CDP-4-DUPLEX_MISMATCH: duplex mismatch discovered on Ethernet0/0 (not full duplex), with Cat3524b_jroysdon.internal.artoo.net FastEthernet0/22 (full duple x). c2610_jroysdon# /////////////////////////////////// Later with a 100K, 1450 bits, 0 second timeout packet ping session coming from the 2610 to the same target router, at the same time the 1605R is still pinging the 2610: c2610_jroysdon#sh int e0/0 Ethernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is AmdP2, address is 0003.e39b.5cc0 (bia 0003.e39b.5cc0) Internet address is 192.168.45.252/24 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10000 Kbit, DLY 1000 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 90/255, rxload 68/255 Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:10:19 Queueing strategy: fifo Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 43/75, 0 drops 5 minute input rate 2701000 bits/sec, 265 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 3562000 bits/sec, 346 packets/sec 126350 packets input, 184235072 bytes, 2 no buffer Received 328 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored 0 input packets with dribble condition detected 155690 packets output, 227384676 bytes, 0 underruns(0/0/0) 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out Cat3524b_jroysdon#sh int f0/22 FastEthernet0/22 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is Fast Ethernet, address is 0004.27dc.6196 (bia 0004.27dc.6196) Description: 2610 e0/0 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10000 Kbit, DLY 1000 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 97/255, rxload 138/255 Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set Keepalive not set Full-duplex, 10Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:10:23 Queueing strategy: fifo Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops 30 second input rate 5444000 bits/sec, 465 packets/sec 30 second output rate 3842000 bits/sec, 329 packets/sec 156097 packets input, 228570188 bytes Received 200 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored 0 watchdog, 198 multicast 0 input packets with dribble condition detected 126858 packets output, 185267594 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out /////////////////////////////////// The 1605R was getting a ton of collisions (which would be expected if the 2610 was really running 10/full, as it could send and receive at the same time, whereas the 1605R has to share the media with the Catalyst): .May 28 19:37:49.616 PDT: %QUICC_ETHER-5-COLL: Unit 1, excessive collisions. Retry limit 1 5 exceeded.... ..........!..............!....................................!....... ..!............ .May 28 19:37:53.703 PDT: %QUICC_ETHER-5-COLL: Unit 1, excessive collisions. Retry limit 1 5 exceeded .May 28 19:37:54.072 PDT: %QUICC_ETHER-5-COLL: Unit 1, excessive collisions. Retry limit 1 5 exceeded .May 28 19:37:54.576 PDT: %QUICC_ETHER-5-COLL: Unit 1, excessive collisions. Retry limit 1 5 exceeded!...........!................................!......... ....................! .May 28 19:37:54.973 PDT: %QUICC_ETHER-5-COLL: Unit 1, excessive collisions. Retry limit 1 5 exceeded .May 28 19:37:55.429 PDT: %QUICC_ETHER-5-COLL: Unit 1, excessive collisions. Retry limit 1 5 exceeded .May 28 19:37:55.691 PDT: %QUICC_ETHER-5-COLL: Unit 1, excessive collisions. Retry limit 1 5 exceeded.!...................................!........... /////////////////////////////////// So I tried testing pinging from the 2610 to a local 100/full workstation while the 1605-R was pinging the 2610 (this time after a clear counters): Cat3524b_jroysdon#sh int f0/22 FastEthernet0/22 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is Fast Ethernet, address is 0004.27dc.6196 (bia 0004.27dc.6196) Description: 2610 e0/0 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10000 Kbit, DLY 1000 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 131/255, rxload 134/255 Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set Keepalive not set Full-duplex, 10Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 Last input 00:00:11, output 00:00:01, output hang never Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:18:35 Queueing strategy: fifo Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops 30 second input rate 5293000 bits/sec, 451 packets/sec 30 second output rate 5167000 bits/sec, 441 packets/sec 329097 packets input, 482038917 bytes Received 346 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored 0 watchdog, 343 multicast 0 input packets with dribble condition detected 288210 packets output, 421059923 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out c2610_jroysdon#sh int e0/0 Ethernet0/0 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is AmdP2, address is 0003.e39b.5cc0 (bia 0003.e39b.5cc0) Internet address is 192.168.45.252/24 MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10000 Kbit, DLY 1000 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 114/255, rxload 104/255 Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set Keepalive set (10 sec) ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00, output hang never Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:05:40 Queueing strategy: fifo Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 18/75, 0 drops 5 minute input rate 4088000 bits/sec, 375 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 4479000 bits/sec, 412 packets/sec 131148 packets input, 191524006 bytes, 0 no buffer Received 183 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored 0 input packets with dribble condition detected 137369 packets output, 200751793 bytes, 0 underruns(0/0/0) 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out /////////////////////////////////// Still no errors at all on the Catalyst or 2610. I added another 100/full workstation also into the Catalyst pinging the 2610 (I couldn't really have it ping that fast, DOS limits it to like 1 ping per second, but I could still generate some "large" traffic at 1450 bits per packet), and the results didn't change at all. So, I guess what I'm asking with this long-winded post, is what should happen with a duplex mismatch? Collisions and/or errors, correct? Should 10mbit be able to support full-duplex (something vendor-specific/proprietary, even)? Perhaps what was going on the entire time was that since I had 10mbit configured on the Catalyst (and that's the only speed supported on e0/0 on the 2610), that it automatically limited to half-duplex? Except that the Catalyst CDP was transmitting that it was running full-duplex (CDP bug?). -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=6176&t=6176 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]