Thanks for the compliments. You are very sweet. I recommend the Sybex CID
book by Robert Padjen. He got the gist of the CID test very well. I don't
know if he's updating it for the new version. I would imagine he is. As I
mentioned, the version control is out of control though, so it's hard to
keep up. I can't tell which books go with which version of the test and
what is actually on the current version of the test. ..... Sorry.
Priscilla
At 11:40 PM 6/11/01, hal9001 wrote:
>Priscilla,
>
>You have more than done you bit and I might now quote to all potential
>MCSE's 2000 that the firstbook quoted in the New Riders Series for #70-221
>Exam Network Infrastructure Design was.......Top Down Network Design by you
>know who. As for you recommendations to your book surely we start with TDND
>and work our way through the whole design process. TDND is the basis of
>Network Design FULL STOP.
>
>Karl
>
>P.S. Got any other good sources though!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
>To:
>Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:42 PM
>Subject: CID books [7:8062]
>
>
> > Oh, and I discovered one more strange thing. The current course
>description
> > for CID is a paraphrasing of the first few paragraphs of my book,
Top-Down
> > Network Design. I guess this is a good thing. I always wanted the CID
>class
> > to teach more top-down methodology which I came up with after I wrote my
> > version of CID. I'm kind of upset that they didn't tell me about this
> > usurping of my material, but it's par for the course (so to speak).
> >
> > The good news is that I think I can now authentically recommend my book
>for
> > CID:
> >
> > Top-Down Network Design.
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 05:28 PM 6/11/01, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> > >At 04:48 PM 6/11/01, hal9001 wrote:
> > > >Priscilla,
> > > >
> > > >You asked for this one, if the Cisco Press Book for CID is off topic
(a
> > > >bit?) then can you state a better source, I'm not asking for
>testimonials
> > > >here but just a targeted source for exam success.
> > >
> > >The Sybex book is good for CID. In this case the author took the test
>many
> > >times to make sure the book covers what's really on the test. Since
Cisco
> > >seems to be incapable of explaining accurately what is really on the
>test,
> > >that's the only way to know for sure.
> > >
> > >The CID version control is out of control and could affect the decision
>on
> > >which book is best. The course outline (which says version 3.0) here
> > >includes VPN, voice and video stuff. But I know that 3.0 really doesn't
> > >include those topics.
> > >
> >
>
>http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/wwtraining/CELC/index.cgi?action=Cour
>seDesc&COURSE_ID=321
> > >
> > >The list of the exam objectives here are the list of objectives that I
> > >wrote for each chapter in 1995 for Version 2.0. Seriously. Notice that
>the
> > >list doesn't cover WAN Switching, for example, which is, in fact, in
3.0.
> > >
> >
>
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exa
>ms/640-025.html
> > >
> > >So it's truly a mess. Sorry I can't be more help. Everyone I knew at
>Cisco
> > >got laid off! ;-)
> > >
> > >Priscilla
> > >
> > >
> > > >Thanks Karl
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
> > > >To:
> > > >Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 9:09 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: Passed switching [7:7986]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > The exam and course are written by Cisco. It's not always the same
> > >person.
> > > > > If the course has a mistake, the exam may not have the same
mistake.
> > > > > (Hopefully it won't!)
> > > > >
> > > > > Some of the Cisco Press books are the course notes ported to book
> > format.
> > > > > The Cisco Press editor who develops the book may have a hard job
> > because
> > > >he
> > > > > or she must produce an accurate book even if the course is not
> > accurate.
> > > >In
> > > > > some cases mistakes carry over, but usually they are caught. In a
>few
> > > >cases
> > > > > the editor got a bit too creative and the book is "off course."
Like
> > the
> > > > > Cisco Press CID book, which is a good book, but is not as well
>targeted
> > > > > toward the test as it could be.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sybex books are written by people not directly associated with
>Cisco.
> > > >These
> > > > > authors take the exam over and over again until they are qualified
>to
> > > >write
> > > > > a book to help you study for the exam.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bottom line: learn it the right way. If you miss a question on the
>test
> > > > > because you knew it the right way and the test writer didn't, it's
a
> > > >shame,
> > > > > but you gotta just live with it. Hopefully that situation is rare.
> > > > >
> > > > > Priscilla
> > > > >
> > > > > At 03:05 PM 6/11/01, Gareth Hinton wrote:
> > > > > >The Cisco Press book is almost identical to the course notes,
which
>I
> > > > > >believe the exam is written from.
> > > > > >In fact, it seems the Cisco Press book has less errors than the
> > official
> > > > > >notes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I'm on the course at the moment. The table on page 41 of the Cisco
> > Press
> > > > > >book is actually wrong on the course notes (Version 1.1) although
> > > >corrected
> > > > > >in the Cisco book. (RIPv1/IGRP VLSM support???? among others)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Is the exam written by someone for Sybex based on the course
notes?
> > i.e.
> > > > > >Will we have to use the wrong answer on the exam?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Priscilla and co.? Do you know what the process is from previous
> > > >experience?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Gaz
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I'm on the routing course at the moment.
> > > > > >""Phantom"" wrote in message
> > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > > Just passed switching ,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Some MLS some Multicast, in general a well balanced exma had a
>bit
> > of
> > > > > > > everything mentioned on the blueprint, now on to Routing,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Used Sybex and cisco press books also used the free test on
> > > >examcram.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any ideas of what I should use to study for the routing exam?
> > > > > ________________________
> > > > >
> > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > > > > http://www.priscilla.com
> > >________________________
> > >
> > >Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > >http://www.priscilla.com
> > ________________________
> >
> > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > http://www.priscilla.com
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