Hello, everybody Now i am confusing about the burst in CAR and GTS. In CAR, it say that rate-limit output bps burst-normal burst-max ... In GTS traffic-shape group access-list bit-rate [burst-size [excess-burst-size]] I think that bps in CAR is the same thing as the bit-rate in GTS, and burst-size is the same as the burst-size in GTS, but i do not know it the burst-max in CAR is the same as excess-burst-size in GTS. And i thing the excess-burst-size is the bytes that excess the burst-size in the interval Tc=burst-size/bit-rat. So in the following problem: Configure R3 so that users on the Token Ring segment get at least 16K of bandwidth, but not more than 40K, for their telnet traffic. The answer is set the bps=16kbps, the burst-size=16k, and the excess-burst-size=40k-16k=24k, so the GTS is traffic-shape group 1 16000 16000 24000 Am i right? And what about CAR? What is the different between CAR and GTS? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=10578&t=10578 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]