Hi folks, Can anyone give a good explaination for the above? Mainly, what's the difference, and in which case would you use one or the other. I'm currently using car-filter now and it works great! But I'm just curious if I can make traffic-shape do the same function as rate-limit. For those that don't know, these are all interface commands. Thanks for any help. -Frank Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=12355&t=12355 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]