Is there any evidence to support this possibility?  The reason I ask is that
the proctors have a very important role in the lab exam as it sits today,
and I don't see how that role could be diminished.

Hmmm...as a CCIE, if there were Sylvan remote lab testing, and lab proctors
had to be CCIE's, that would fill a the gap in the CCIE
unemployment...interesting tactic...

But I doubt it will ever happen.  Too much reputation at stake for Cisco to
give up that much control over that coveted certification.

-e-

----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Dennis 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 6:53 PM
Subject: CCIE Lab Remote (was RE: Current Wait time on the lab) [7:12746]


> Greg,
> It won't matter if there isn't a waiting list if the CCIE certification
has
> lost it's value. The one-day lab is the first step to start running the
lab
> remote from testing centers like Sylvan. I don't think that you want to be
> known as a "Sylvan CCIE" do you?
>
> Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S)(ISP/Dial) CCSI #98640
> 5G Networks, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Here is an excert from an e-mail I sent on the ccielab mailing list today:
>
> I think that we all know that someone could make an extremely hard one day
> lab that fails 99% of the candidates but that isn't the issue. There are a
> couple issues with remote labs and the shortening of the waiting list. One
> issue is that with the short waiting list people are going to be able to
> take the lab over and over again enabling the CCIE lab exams to become
> common knowledge just like the CCIE written is today. It'll be simpler for
> someone to just take the lab over and over again then it would to actually
> study. Cisco needs to put safeguards in that don't allow people take the
> test to often to solve this problem and I don't mean a weak solution like
> the 20 points on day one. I bet the average CCNP could get 20 points on
day
> one.
>
> Having a long waiting list enables candidates to prepare and study for the
> lab and is part of the becoming a CCIE. Becoming a CCIE isn't something
that
> you do overnight and should not be able to attempt every 30 days.
>
> Another issue is the problem with Sylvan testing centers that don't
enforce
> Sylvan's policies and Sylvan centers that aren't on the up-and-up. This
> problem speaks for itself.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Greg Macaulay
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 6:22 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713]
>
>
> Chuck ---
> Do you really think the CCIE is finished?? I hope you are wrong! We've all
> invested so many hundreds of hours of blood, sweat, tears and Money to get
> to this point!!  I read Cisco's explanation today -- and hopefully their
new
> lab will simply economize on time -- not on expertise.  Say a prayer!
>
> Greg Macaulay
> Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth
> Lifetime Member of AARP
> Retired Attorney/Law Professor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Chuck Larrieu
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 8:52 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713]
>
>
> I'm willing to part with my December 3 date for a nominal fee.
>
> Chuck
> betting that once the one day lab takes effect, the value of the CCIE will
> plummet ;->
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> EA Louie
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 2:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713]
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Neiberger
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 2:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713]
>
>
> > I just scheduled the lab today and the earliest date available was
> > 3/8/2002.  But I took that spot.  :-)
>
> not true, the earliest date was today  ;-)  then one on 8/7 and another on
> 8/17  (heheheheh)
>
> >
> > John
> >
> > >>> "Jaspreet Bhatia"  7/17/01 2:40:18 PM >>>
> > Guys,
> >               Does anyone know what is the current wait time for the
> > R/S
> > lab in San Jose .
> >
> > Jaspreet
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