Is there any evidence to support this possibility? The reason I ask is that the proctors have a very important role in the lab exam as it sits today, and I don't see how that role could be diminished. Hmmm...as a CCIE, if there were Sylvan remote lab testing, and lab proctors had to be CCIE's, that would fill a the gap in the CCIE unemployment...interesting tactic... But I doubt it will ever happen. Too much reputation at stake for Cisco to give up that much control over that coveted certification. -e- ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Dennis To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 6:53 PM Subject: CCIE Lab Remote (was RE: Current Wait time on the lab) [7:12746] > Greg, > It won't matter if there isn't a waiting list if the CCIE certification has > lost it's value. The one-day lab is the first step to start running the lab > remote from testing centers like Sylvan. I don't think that you want to be > known as a "Sylvan CCIE" do you? > > Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S)(ISP/Dial) CCSI #98640 > 5G Networks, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Here is an excert from an e-mail I sent on the ccielab mailing list today: > > I think that we all know that someone could make an extremely hard one day > lab that fails 99% of the candidates but that isn't the issue. There are a > couple issues with remote labs and the shortening of the waiting list. One > issue is that with the short waiting list people are going to be able to > take the lab over and over again enabling the CCIE lab exams to become > common knowledge just like the CCIE written is today. It'll be simpler for > someone to just take the lab over and over again then it would to actually > study. Cisco needs to put safeguards in that don't allow people take the > test to often to solve this problem and I don't mean a weak solution like > the 20 points on day one. I bet the average CCNP could get 20 points on day > one. > > Having a long waiting list enables candidates to prepare and study for the > lab and is part of the becoming a CCIE. Becoming a CCIE isn't something that > you do overnight and should not be able to attempt every 30 days. > > Another issue is the problem with Sylvan testing centers that don't enforce > Sylvan's policies and Sylvan centers that aren't on the up-and-up. This > problem speaks for itself. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Greg Macaulay > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 6:22 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713] > > > Chuck --- > Do you really think the CCIE is finished?? I hope you are wrong! We've all > invested so many hundreds of hours of blood, sweat, tears and Money to get > to this point!! I read Cisco's explanation today -- and hopefully their new > lab will simply economize on time -- not on expertise. Say a prayer! > > Greg Macaulay > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth > Lifetime Member of AARP > Retired Attorney/Law Professor > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Chuck Larrieu > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 8:52 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713] > > > I'm willing to part with my December 3 date for a nominal fee. > > Chuck > betting that once the one day lab takes effect, the value of the CCIE will > plummet ;-> > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > EA Louie > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 2:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Neiberger > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 2:12 PM > Subject: Re: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713] > > > > I just scheduled the lab today and the earliest date available was > > 3/8/2002. But I took that spot. :-) > > not true, the earliest date was today ;-) then one on 8/7 and another on > 8/17 (heheheheh) > > > > > John > > > > >>> "Jaspreet Bhatia" 7/17/01 2:40:18 PM >>> > > Guys, > > Does anyone know what is the current wait time for the > > R/S > > lab in San Jose . > > > > Jaspreet > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=12770&t=12770 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]