i checked the last 2 candidates CCIE Verification Tool No, I'm sorry, Dave Mack is not CCIE number 6963. To receive a positive verification, you will need to enter in the CCIE's name exactly as it is in the CCIE database. For example, if the CCIE's first name is Dan, you may also want to try Daniel. Since there is a possibility that we have a different spelling of the person's -----Original Message----- From: Brian Dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 5:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Meet Your New CCIE Proctor (was RE: CCIE Lab Remote) [7:12803] I heard it directly and indirectly from sources at Cisco that they were looking into Sylvan as a testing provider. Sylvan wouldn't actually own the equipment or employ CCIEs, they would just provide the testing facilities. The equipment would still be located at Cisco and administrated by Cisco. Also I know that the beta of the one-day lab was offered to people remote. Not from Sylvan but from any Cisco sales office. Do you want to meet your new proctor? Click on the link below. http://www.mentortech.com/learn/ccie_assessor.shtml Let me say that this technology looks totally impressive. It looks to be a great product but do I think I want something like this to replace the proctor? No. I truly hope that I'm totally incorrect and this isn't the direction that Cisco is going. Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S)(ISP/Dial) CCSI #98640 5G Networks, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of EA Louie Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Remote (was RE: Current Wait time on the lab) [7:12770] Is there any evidence to support this possibility? The reason I ask is that the proctors have a very important role in the lab exam as it sits today, and I don't see how that role could be diminished. Hmmm...as a CCIE, if there were Sylvan remote lab testing, and lab proctors had to be CCIE's, that would fill a the gap in the CCIE unemployment...interesting tactic... But I doubt it will ever happen. Too much reputation at stake for Cisco to give up that much control over that coveted certification. -e- ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Dennis To: Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 6:53 PM Subject: CCIE Lab Remote (was RE: Current Wait time on the lab) [7:12746] > Greg, > It won't matter if there isn't a waiting list if the CCIE certification has > lost it's value. The one-day lab is the first step to start running the lab > remote from testing centers like Sylvan. I don't think that you want to be > known as a "Sylvan CCIE" do you? > > Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S)(ISP/Dial) CCSI #98640 > 5G Networks, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Here is an excert from an e-mail I sent on the ccielab mailing list today: > > I think that we all know that someone could make an extremely hard one day > lab that fails 99% of the candidates but that isn't the issue. There are a > couple issues with remote labs and the shortening of the waiting list. One > issue is that with the short waiting list people are going to be able to > take the lab over and over again enabling the CCIE lab exams to become > common knowledge just like the CCIE written is today. It'll be simpler for > someone to just take the lab over and over again then it would to actually > study. Cisco needs to put safeguards in that don't allow people take the > test to often to solve this problem and I don't mean a weak solution like > the 20 points on day one. I bet the average CCNP could get 20 points on day > one. > > Having a long waiting list enables candidates to prepare and study for the > lab and is part of the becoming a CCIE. Becoming a CCIE isn't something that > you do overnight and should not be able to attempt every 30 days. > > Another issue is the problem with Sylvan testing centers that don't enforce > Sylvan's policies and Sylvan centers that aren't on the up-and-up. This > problem speaks for itself. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Greg Macaulay > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 6:22 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713] > > > Chuck --- > Do you really think the CCIE is finished?? I hope you are wrong! We've all > invested so many hundreds of hours of blood, sweat, tears and Money to get > to this point!! I read Cisco's explanation today -- and hopefully their new > lab will simply economize on time -- not on expertise. Say a prayer! > > Greg Macaulay > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth > Lifetime Member of AARP > Retired Attorney/Law Professor > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Chuck Larrieu > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 8:52 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713] > > > I'm willing to part with my December 3 date for a nominal fee. > > Chuck > betting that once the one day lab takes effect, the value of the CCIE will > plummet ;-> > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > EA Louie > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 2:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Neiberger > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 2:12 PM > Subject: Re: Current Wait time on the lab [7:12713] > > > > I just scheduled the lab today and the earliest date available was > > 3/8/2002. But I took that spot. :-) > > not true, the earliest date was today ;-) then one on 8/7 and another on > 8/17 (heheheheh) > > > > > John > > > > >>> "Jaspreet Bhatia" 7/17/01 2:40:18 PM >>> > > Guys, > > Does anyone know what is the current wait time for the > > R/S > > lab in San Jose . > > > > Jaspreet > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=12811&t=12811 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
