Peter,
The issue isn't a one day / two day issue. I'm sure the one day lab with be
tough and at first we will see a lot of people failing it. Cisco has to do
this to ensure that it looks like a good decision but wait for a few months
after a ton of people take it. The beta one day lab was really hard and
failed many people. Bruce Caslow scored a 27/100 and Phil Remaker scored
35/100. Some people declined to take it because they knew that they would be
setup to fail ;) But that isn't what Cisco is trying to do. Cisco is using
the long waiting list as an excuse to move to a one day remote lab. If Cisco
really wanted to shorten the waiting list they would fix the written but
that wouldn't give them an excuse to go to a one day remote lab.

People should not be fooled into thinking this a one day / two day issue or
a long waiting list issue. This is just a start of the changes to come for
the CCIE lab.

Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S)(ISP/Dial) CCSI #98640
5G Networks, Inc.
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Peter Van Oene
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE
[7:12980]


Are you missing the point that the lab with still be very tough?  The only
issue is meeting the customer demand for rack time for testing.  Cisco
cannot do this in a two day format and much of the two day stuff was
overhead.  I personally think one day will be tougher.

Pete


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On 7/19/2001 at 1:25 PM Ciaron Gogarty wrote:

>I do believe that the format IS changing to a one day lab, so it's
>actually
>taking the piss out of the reasons Cisco are giving for changing the
>format...
>
>Personally, I think CCIE is THE most respected vendor certification out
>there, so why change what (to my mind) has been a great format for
>seperating the weed from the chaff??  In the end, the market will get
>swamped with half baked CCIE's who have no substantive real world
>experience
>and the value of the cert will go down... much like the way the MCSE went..
>
>thats my two cents
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 19 July 2001 14:52
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE
>[7:12943]
>
>
>thanks....
>
>I read this after an all night work session - half asleep
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ciaron Gogarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 19 July 2001 15:23
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926]
>
>
>I think u should read the article more closely
>
>;-)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 19 July 2001 10:05
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: FW: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926]
>
>
>This is what I received from a colleague.
>
>Is this true?????
>http://angelfire.com/my/no1daylab/new_format.html




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