Got lots of "shortys" around our camp and never had any problems. 8 inch to be exact. -----Original Message----- From: Greene, Patrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 11:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Ethernet Trivia mostly, Need an EE's answer probably. [7:13232] I do believe the shortest patch cord length for 10/100Base-T is 1 meter. -----Original Message----- From: NY50TT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 7/21/2001 12:48 PM Subject: Ethernet Trivia mostly, Need an EE's answer probably. [7:13199] We all hear about max cable lengths for Ethernet. But is there a minimum? If the TX pair of one side connects to the RX pair of the other, then collisions, if any, happen at the ingress of the hub or switch in the buffer, or on the buffer of the nic if just using a really short cross over, is this right? I've looked and looked, and haven't been able to get an answer that says "the minimun length of a Category 5 100Base connection is x feet" even the spec seems to be silent on it. What am I missing in my knowledge of physics and electronics? p.s. My foot long patches between hosts and a hub don't seem to cause errors. I'll stick a sniffer in this week and see if I see any. I'm manufacturing these 3 inch patch cables for my test. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13233&t=13233 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]