[demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] 8000!!! Is this possible??? Assuming even a marginal passing rate, that sure dumps a lot of CCIEs into an already depressed employment arena. Surely the VAR appetite can't be that ravenous with the techonomy on its backside? Maybe those "trucking schools" that advertise on late night tv will soon branch out into CCIE training/quickie certification as well. I'm fearing the day that I see a "Guaranteed CCIE in 7 days" banner on any given tech site. This doesn't sound that far-fetched if Cisco caves further and simply allows/promotes widespread remote-access "lab" testing [which will no doubt be considered attractive by some bean counters at Cisco who will always strive for full automation -- effectively reducing the "lab" terminology to a complete joke as it becomes just another rote memorization mcse-like exercise]. Let's hope not.... btw -- Based on my experience in the field (which may not necessarily be a great example), it seems that quite often MANY network "problems" are related to the "no brainer" topics that Cisco is reportedly electing to eliminate (setting up and troubleshooting cabling and addressing issues). Nothing like sacrificing the fundamentals at the altar of expediency. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ahmed Mamoor Amimi Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 2:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: good news and bad news for 1 day lab.... [7:13237] Guys, There are some good news and some bad for the CCIE LAB exam ..... Good News : 1- the lab is changing into one day lab (not to stress on 2 day hard working) 2- the basic configuration like ip addressing and cabling are pre-installed 3- the best in all no reverse telneting (no need to practic on access server) 4- lab can now be schedul earlier 5- affective from 1 sept. 6- no need to take the written exam again if u are of old one as both the written and lab is changing 7- all the topics are unchanged so no need to look for more... only patren had changed 8- best in all the 30 marks seperate troubleshooting is not requried but will be testing on that same day.... th proctor will monitor u how u troubleshoot devices. 9- The knob switch will be added to the lab for shifting from one router to another for config. (very easy)... and it will cost u around $40. Bad news : 1- According to CISCO the market have only 6000 CCIE around the globle so more should be needed so i think the CCIE will be in SURPLUS after it like MCSE and CCNP as they are giving relax to this project. 2- 3900 token ring switch is added. 3- may be LS1010 will be added to the lab. 4- according to JEFF (CCIE lab Manager) the VoIP will be in the lab at anytime. 5- There are around 8000 people to go for the CCIE lab in sept till nov. so i thing there will be many CCIE .............. oooooo!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------ Hey you! Claim your FREE anonymous email account: Click Here -> http://www.anonymous.to Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13240&t=13240 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]