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8000!!! Is this possible??? Assuming even a marginal passing rate, that sure
dumps a lot of CCIEs into an already depressed employment arena.  Surely the
VAR appetite can't be that ravenous with the techonomy on its backside?

Maybe those "trucking schools" that advertise on late night tv will soon
branch out into CCIE training/quickie certification as well.

I'm fearing the day that I see a "Guaranteed CCIE in 7 days" banner on any
given tech site.  This doesn't sound that far-fetched if Cisco caves further
and simply allows/promotes widespread remote-access "lab" testing [which
will no doubt be considered attractive by some bean counters at Cisco who
will always strive for full automation -- effectively reducing the "lab"
terminology to a complete joke as it becomes just another rote memorization
mcse-like exercise].  Let's hope not....

btw -- Based on my experience in the field (which may not necessarily be a
great example), it seems that quite often MANY network "problems" are
related to the "no brainer" topics that Cisco is reportedly electing to
eliminate (setting up and troubleshooting cabling and addressing issues).

Nothing like sacrificing the fundamentals at the altar of expediency.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Ahmed Mamoor Amimi
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 2:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: good news and bad news for 1 day lab.... [7:13237]


Guys,
There are some good news and some bad for the CCIE LAB exam .....

Good News :
1- the lab is changing into one day lab (not to stress on 2 day hard
working)
2- the basic configuration like ip addressing and cabling are pre-installed
3- the best in all no reverse telneting (no need to practic on access
server)
4- lab can now be schedul earlier
5- affective from 1 sept.
6- no need to take the written exam again if u are of old one as both the
written and lab is changing
7- all the topics are unchanged so no need to look for more... only patren
had changed
8- best in all the 30 marks seperate troubleshooting is not requried but
will be testing on that same day.... th proctor will monitor u how u
troubleshoot devices.
9- The knob switch will be added to the lab for shifting from one router to
another for config. (very easy)... and it will cost u around $40.


Bad news :
1- According to CISCO the market have only 6000 CCIE around the globle so
more should be needed so i think the CCIE will be in SURPLUS after it like
MCSE and CCNP as they are giving relax to this project.
2- 3900 token ring switch is added.
3- may be LS1010 will be added to the lab.
4- according to JEFF (CCIE lab Manager) the VoIP will be in the lab at
anytime.
5- There are around 8000 people to go for the CCIE lab in sept till nov. so
i thing there will be many CCIE .............. oooooo!!!!




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