Let me clarify...  I do not wish to unsubscribe, although there are times... 
  it's just that this is the second or third email I recieved from this 
individual over the past several weeks.  Maybe it's a hotmail bug???!!!



>From: "Bob Dixon" 
>To: "vr4drvr ." 
>Subject: Re: CCIE Salary v2
>Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 12:13:33 -0400
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: vr4drvr . 
>To: 
>Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 10:41 AM
>Subject: Re: CCIE Salary v2
>
>
> > Firstly, you completely missed the point of my email.  You probably 
>didn't
> > even read it, or comprehend it for that matter.
> >
> > Secondly, why do I continue to get this garbage in my email?
> >
> > Adrian Smith
> > Network Engineer
> >
> >
> > >From: "Roberto Iannuzzi" 
> > >Reply-To: "Roberto Iannuzzi" 
> > >To: "vr4drvr ." , 
> > >Subject: Re: CCIE Salary v2
> > >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 18:25:39 -0400
> > >
> > >    CCIE's are among those most talented computer people in the world.
> > >That's
> > >why they are CCIE's. You can say whatever you want but the fact is 
>CCIE's
> > >leave most people scratching their heads when it comes to technical
> > >prowess.
> > >Companies drool at the thought of having a CCIE for whatever reason and
> > >Wannabee CCIE's belittle the credibility of a CCIE because they could
>NEVER
> > >be one.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >From: "vr4drvr ." 
> > >To: 
> > >Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 10:47 AM
> > >Subject: Re: CCIE Salary v2
> > >
> > >
> > > > I don't think everyone on this list quite understands what the CCIE
> > > > represents to the "corporation".  I will admit that it is a great 
>way
> > >for
> > > > technical people to increase their skill sets in order to help them 
>in
> > >their
> > > > profession.  But the main reason companies were offering so much for
> > >them
> > > > was not necessarily due to the technical prowess that is "supposed" 
>to
> > >come
> > > > with a CCIE.  You see, having a number of CCIE's on staff means the
> > >company
> > > > can get deals with Cisco.  It is a business reason more than a
>personnel
> > > > reason, as is ALWAYS the case with businesses.  It is all about the
> > >bottom
> > > > line!  If IT is slowing then so is the need for the deals (CCIE's),
>but
> > >not
> > > > for skilled individuals.  I know of CCIE's that just couldn't 
>survive
>in
> > >the
> > > > real IT world, but not all.  I am not detracting from the CCIE, I 
>just
> > >want
> > > > to clarify.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Roger McNeace" 
> > > > >Reply-To: "Roger McNeace" 
> > > > >To: 
> > > > >Subject: CCIE Salary
> > > > >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 21:48:43 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > >I apologize if this distracts form the true purpose of this forum,
>but
> > >I
> > > > >believe this is an important issue. I work for a large Telecom
>company
> > >that
> > > > >is laying off a lot of engineers, so I have been forced to look at
>the
> > >job
> > > > >market for opportunities. I have seen many job postings that say
>"CCIE
> > > > >required" with a salary range of $70-$90k. I am doing better than
>that
> > > > >without a CCIE. My questions is this a market phenomenon or have 
>the
> > > > >recruiters in lost their mind?  I hope this is not a trend that 
>CCIE
>is
> > > > >losing its value in the market place.  I am not pursuing CCIE 
>status
> > >soley
> > > > >for the money, but sure as hell dont want to go backwards.
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