You use the binary method to actually understand what is going on in the background. I like it because now after all of the hand written binary conversions I've done, I can subnet, summarize routes, and write access lists that permit/block a range all in my head in no time at all. I myself would not want to get caught in a meeting where the head boss asks "what mask would give me x amount of host and subnets or what would summarize all of these routes" and respond with " I have to go get my computer to do that". I think he would be much more impressed with a response calculated in my head or on paper right there with a clear explanation why this is the way it is. You learn that from binary. Use the subnet calculator as a quick fix or check. No offense, this is just my opinion. -----Original Message----- From: Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15306] This is a study group so I have a question for which I need some education. I am not looking for a flame war, just education. The question I have is of what use is the binary math method of subnetting as compared to just using a program that does subnetting? If the point to the exercise is to produce a plan for subnetting that can then be entered into each device on the network or into a DHCP server setup, what else is achieved by doing this manually? It seems to me that the point is not the journey, but the arrival at the destination. Indeed arrival as quickly as possible, with the least source of error. As Cisco even says; "The purpose of this tool is to provide a way to calculate IP subnetting which is fast, easy, and error free. Doing such calculations manually is time consuming and susceptible to common mathematical mistakes, especially in conversions between binary and decimal numbers." So what is it I am not understanding? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=15308&t=15308 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]