This is more like a chicken egg discussion. Which was first chicken or egg?
Should you have certification first or experience?
Certification is possible without experience but my question is how do you
get experience without certification in this competitive market and IT job
freeze (there are always few exceptions to rule). HR and technical managers
will not even talk to you without some sort of certifications.
It's true that initially the person who have no experience and has only
certifications will not be as productive but it's only matter of time when
this person in real world starts picking up stuff fast.
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Date: Sunday, August 12, 2001 07:13:13 PM
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Subject: RE: CAN SOME ONE NO EXPERMIENT CAN PASS CCNP [7:15717]
a newly minted CCNP could bluff their way into a job but isn't it the
hiring mangers responsibility to say if they keep the job after they
display a lack of expertise. I think the Cisco cert. excluding the CCIE
validate experience for some and provide a foundation to build on for
others.
just my 2 cents.
-----Original Message-----
From: ext Dennis Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 10:53 AM
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Subject: Re: CAN SOME ONE NO EXPERMIENT CAN PASS CCNP [7:15717]
The point of certifications is (was) to validate one's experience and/or
knowledge. The CCNA has already gone the way of the MCSE and CNE certs.
CCNP is on its way as well. Memorizing material for a few simple tests
means squat in the real world. You may impress the HR screener into
getting
to the interview with the hiring manager. You may even be able to bluff
your way into a job offer. Then you have to be able to actually do the
work
or explain to the boss why he needs to pay for someone who knows what
they
are doing to come in and fix the problem or worse, why he has people
sitting
around on the payroll twiddling their thumbs while his freshly minted
CCNP
tries to figure out which command will fix the network which is down.
""Gareth Hinton"" wrote in message
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> Why bother studying anything at school/college. It's not real world
> experience.
>
> If I was interviewing someone who said I didn't bother studying for
any
> Cisco certifications because they are not real world experience,
they'd be
> back out into the real world without finishing their coffee.
>
> I believe that any relevant knowledge can fill gaps in the future. Its
a
> good base to start from.
>
> Gaz
>
> ""Dennis Bailey"" wrote in message
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> > Yes but why???? What would you do with it?
> >
> >
> > ""PHIMHONGKONG"" wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Hi
> > > i have a question
> > >
> > > I have no working experiment but i have some router to study at
home
> > >
> > > Do i have a chance to pass ccnp?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Give me a honest answer
> > >
> > > Thanks
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