I was just browsing the certification section of the Cisco website and noticed CCIP certification for the first time. I passed CCNA and am currently studying for CCNP. What is the purpose of this new certification? Also at what level is this certifcation. First off, you don't need a CCNA to pursue it, so is it at a lower level than CCNP? I really cannot see the need for this new certification. It seems there is a lot of overlap with CCNP as far as routing and remote access is concerned. BUT I see it focuses more on WAN and telecom than CCNP. Why don't they just require additional electives to CCNP similiar to what Microsoft did with MCSE+I if they want to promote competency in these areas? I believe the more certifications a vendor offers, the more watered down and less respected they appear. Already Cisco has CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP, CCIE and now CCIP.(I probably missed a few they may have added while submitting this post). Especially being that many times, the HR represenatives reviewing resumes are not familiar with many of these certifications and acronyms. I would rather not have to put all these crazy acronyms on my resume (1 good cert from each vendor should be enough), it's getting ridiculous. Whats does everyone else think? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=16565&t=16565 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]