Group, I see that there has been a couple discussions of ISDN DDR. I just thought i'd let you guys/gals know how I've done DDR in my home lab. Went out to ebay and bought a couple of USR 33.6 External modems, a teltone (tls-4) POTS simulator, and used a couple crossover cables and an adapater or two. This type of setup is very simple, easy to wire, and from what i've done so far, it works great. Mind you, I can't configure ISDN Spid's or switch-types but I do get to use modem configuration and chat-scripts so it's a balance. Instead of configuring a bri with a dialer, i use a async with a dialer. Not a big deal. The price of the two modems was about $18 shipped. The Teltone TLS-4 was $125 and I made the cables and had some spare db25 to rj45 adapters (to plug the rj45 into the modems) I think this is a great idea for anyone going for the CCIE and wanted to get good at DDR, snapshot routing, or just using old-school 33.6 modems *grin* Take care all! Tim Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17524&t=17524 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]