Look I know given enough of a mind you can do anything from books.
The real question is what have you got when you do pass it?
Not much, the knowledge wont stick, the brain doesn't work that way. Reading
a book on driving a car may give you the answers to the test but it wont
make you a good driver. Long term memory is action and emotion driven thats
why its hard forget that night you finally get a complicated BGP scenario to
work on your router lab, or fight though the problems at 2 AM of getting
that new RSM to work, and will never ever forget driving an hour in the snow
to fix a problem someone else caused on a clients network because they
didn't know what they were doing, yeah they thought they could slide by.
Is practical experience enough? No you need a lab either at work, home, or
with a group cause some things just have to be done to be understood. To be
the best is the only "exam" any of us should be interested in passing. So
can you pass the test without a lab? Depends on which "test" you are really
trying to pass.
Good luck
Dan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
jap_e
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 7:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]
The answer is Yes, you can be a paper CCNP.
I just turned CCNP last week and I have never touched a router before. Have
never logged into a router, not used any router simulator software. (Yes I
know how a router looked like from the pictures I've seen.) Neither did i
cheat by using brain dumps.
All the information for passing the exams only came from the 4 Sybex books
(routing, switching, support, RA) Not trying to be proud here, but a paper
CCNP is possible.
Will take my written CCIE soon. As for the lab exam, hmm... we shall see...
Cheers, Eve
----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher Supino
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 6:02 AM
Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]
Consider them rolled.
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B.J. Wilson
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 5:18 PM
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Subject: Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]
I heard that cert was still in Draft stage.
(insert collective eye-roll here.)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Supino"
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 4:06 PM
Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]
> Nice Chuck. Don't forget to add CFTA(Certified Flush Toilet
Administrator),
> and MCBD(Miller Certified Beer Drinker).
>
> :)
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 3:22 PM
> To: Christopher Supino; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Christopher Supino
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 12:18 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]
>
> When did CCIE Written become a certification? I take serious issue with
> engineers who do this. It only adds to the cheapening of the cert. Pass
your
> lab, get your number, call yourself a CCIE. Til then, you are a CCNP,
CCDP.
> My two cents.
>
> CL: about the same time the CCNP 2.0 became a certification. Some people
> will do anything to make themselves look better
>
> Chuck
> primary school diploma, high school diploma, Universal Life Church
minister
> Costco GoldStar Member, United Mileage Plus member, Calif. State AAA
member
> should I join the NRA and look tough too? ;->
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> ahmed adil
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 1:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18124]
>
>
> Just cant do it without a router
>
> Ahmed
> CCIE Written CCNP CCDP MCSE
>
> ""Dan Faulk"" wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Having recently just passed CCNP this year I will say you must have a
> > Router.
> > The reason is that the prescribed rituals must be performed in front
of
> the
> > Router.
> > Without a Router the powerful spirit of routing, BGPOSPF, wont bless
your
> > efforts and even if you do pass all knowledge will be removed from you
> > within 2 months. Some have said scrificing your most valuable
possesion
> > before the router helps. I give it my time which seemed to work well.
> Others
> > have given the Router spirit money, bought it accessories, even food
but
> so
> > far time works best.
> > Hope this helps and smile cause TGIF!!
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
D
> > Rick
> > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 11:57 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? [7:18107]
> >
> >
> > Can you pass CCNP w/o having Cisco gears? I'm doing practice test
from
> > Boson and doing the Sybex study guide? Is that sufficient? Do I need
to
> be
> > in front of a router?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Rick D
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