Several points here.... A. I don't underestimate these people, not at all. They have shown what they are capable of. I want to annihilate them, exterminate them, whatever euphemism you prefer, by any means necessary. Incidentally, you mention we live in a Nuclear world. If these filth had Nuclear weapons, they would not for a second hesitate to use them. After the events of two days ago, if you honestly believe that they wouldn't use nukes, or chemicals, or anthrax, you are an abject idiot. B. If you think that the US is responsible for the IRA and the Protestants killing each other in Northern Ireland, you are seriously deluding yourself. That all goes back to way before the United States came into existence. C. The US must look inwards??? Thats some great hyperbole. Were the US and Britain looking inwards during World War II when we were firebombing Dresden and Hamburg? Were they asking themselves, "What could we possibly have done to provoke Hitler into invading most of Europe, into commiting such horrible atrocities? Where does his pain come from? What is this war of ours going to solve?" We weren't asking ourselves that, and we shouldn't have been. That was war, as is what this is. And if you give me this horsecrap about how these situations aren't comparable, I will tell you that these people, if they had the ability, would push the nation of Israel into the Mediterranean, just as they would destroy us. D. I'm a shortwave radio listener, so I hear a lot of non-US media....the BBC, Radio Nederlands, Radio Havana, others, you name it (actually, you can pick up the BBC on local FM stations around here). I'm fully aware of many of the actions and policies of the US government, and also fully aware of how other countries view us, like us, hate us, whatever. I know why terrorists from the Middle-East hate us. They think we are anti-Islam (despite the fact that we fought the Serbs to help the Bosnian Muslims and the Kosovar Albanian Muslims, what a joke that was) they don't like the fact we support Israel, its an affront to them that we have military personnel in Saudi Arabia, blah, blah, blah..... None of the above justifies what happened in New York. None of it. To stop it from happening again, these people must die. Because if they are not wiped out, it will happen again. Guaranteed. -----Original Message----- From: A non-American [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19805] Gutless ? What cause would you train months for with a guarantee of death or life imprisonment ? The facts as I see them are - A. the victims were blameless and deserved nothing of what they received. My heart goes out especially to the rescue crews, imagine dying trying to help! B. the organisation and commitment was amazing, in a nuclear world retaliation must be very precise and fully calculated rather than knee-jerk. Do not underestimate these people, it would be very dumb indeed to assume that they are less intelligent than yourselves. C. many reading this will not like this but the actions of the US government for decades has been in the interest of the US and much blood has been spilt by them and 3rd parties funded by them. Is the hatred you feel for your attackers of your people less valid than theirs ? What attack against these people would you find unacceptable ? The gloves are off - no ? Somebody else out there feels this against your country. The US must try and find these people to make them answer for this but must also look inwards at the same time!! priority is to stop it happening again no ? Look at the tit for tat mess Israel is in... I'm English and for a long time American money has paid for bullets and semtex used in my country - children are dead as are many policemen not to mention the civilians popped off because they have the wrong religion. The level of ignorance in the US is truly amazing, everybody outside the US is disgusted by this act but not many are asking why, we've got a pretty good idea. Word of advice - we get CNN too and it's biased as hell, listen to the news from somewhere ANYWHERE else once in a while. A non-American -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Fenech, William J Sent: 13 September 2001 01:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. It's our arrogance' [7:19699] Don't waste your time with idiots like this (aka Reeta Sinha). The people who pulled off this gutless act, and the ones who support them should be exterminated, pure and simple. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=19887&t=19887 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]