BRAVO!!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Raymond Thomas
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Long response RE: A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES [3:3336]
I don't know what is going on with Taliban and if Afghans support them? I
have family there, and family that used to be alive before they came to
power. I know exactly what is going on because we get messages relayed to us
from family that seek refuge in Pakistan, regarding others that live in
Afghanistan. Let me put it in the simplest way, make believe Hitler took
over France... the French are now "ruled" by the Nazi's and need to abide by
their rules or they will die. The Talibans are the Nazi's in this case, and
the French are the Afghans. Simple and clear now? Many Afghans will cheer
the bombing of the Afghan government, the only downside is that there is
always innocent people that will be in the line of fire and will die as
well. GO USA!
>From Rahmeen!
Raymond Thomas
Vice President
Lewis Consultants International, Inc.
516-498-2300 ext. 104 (NY office)
646-526-6171 cell
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Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:14 PM
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Subject: RE: Long response RE: A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES [3:3336]
I don't find it very surprising that someone named Osama Bin Zia can't have
an understanding of what Raymond is trying to say. The point is that the
evidence will come to light and we will make anyone or country associated
with this pay a big price. I would suggest to you that you keep your head
down and your mouth shut. USA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Osama Bin Zia
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Long response RE: A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES [3:3336]
Well,
Now I disagree with you Raymond. As a human I feel sorry for the people who
have died in the incident. But what I believe is that assumptions should not
be the base to bomb somebody or country. This is terrorsim itself. Who knows
people in Afghanistan like Taliban or not, certainly not you and not the
people in CNN and BBC etc. Who knows if they are responsible for all this
act or not. Killing those people is exactly similar to killing people in
WTC. Then what's the difference????.
It has to be found out who is responsible for this act? If you have time to
see this link I think this may help.
http://www.dawn.com/weekly/ayaz/ayaz.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Raymond Thomas"
To:
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 10:35 PM
Subject: RE: Long response RE: A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES [3:3336]
> Thank you James and everyone else that wrote me all the personal emails
> since this thread. I want to thank everyone for understanding and having
and
> open heart and mind to understand that there are good and evil in all of
> society. Most of us need to be educated on the history of the countries
> being mentioned in the news since this catastrophic event before judging
the
> people as a whole. Most people didn't even know where Afghanistan was
> located geographically on the globe and didn't know that Afghans are being
> RULED by the Talibans and NOT supporting them. I lost many family members
in
> our country due to them and there is nothing more that I would like to see
> than the US and NATO forces to bomb the hell out of them.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Raymond Thomas
> Vice President
> Lewis Consultants International, Inc.
> 516-498-2300 ext. 104 (NY office)
> 646-526-6171 cell
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> James Haynes
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 8:03 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Long response RE: A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES [3:3336]
>
>
> Eloquently stated Raymond. God Bless you and your family. As posted here,
so
> many people have tragic tales to tell. Mine is brighter picture. My sister
> who was at ground-zero made it out alive and is now at home with me. It
was
> such a frantic time of uncertainty for my family it pains me to know
others
> have gone through the same thing and are still living with the same
> uncertainty. Kind souls such as yourself are a welcome relief to hear at a
> time like this. My heart goes out to all people living through this
> nightmare.
>
> --
> James Haynes
> Network Architect
> Cendant IT
> A+,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,
> CQS-SNA/IPSS
>
> ""Raymond Thomas"" wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I was asked where I was born since I am citizen not born in the US so
here
> > it goes. This will be a long email... and if there are many ignorant
> people
> > on this board, then I don't mind not seeing their resumes anymore.
Please
> > read the whole thing and read between the lines if you can, and there
> > shouldn't be a reason for flames if you do so.
> >
> > I was born in Afghanistan in 1977, making me 24 yrs. old (recruiting for
4
> > 1/2 yrs). In 1978, Russia invaded our country and we had to flee to
> Pakistan
> > as refugees, leaving many loved ones and all my family had built for
> > themselves all the years they lived. My family was part of the top 5%
> > wealthiest families in the country and very loved by all because we gave
> 30%
> > of our earnings to the poor and employed 60% of the population in one of
> the
> > major cities. We traded everything we owned... mansions, businesses,
> > jewelry, farm animals, money and in return, we were allowed to flee to
> > Pakistan. We gave them all up to Ahmad Shah Masood who has been fighting
> the
> > Talibans for these past few years. Family members grew up with him and
> > funded his armies to keep the peace. Masood has been fighting the
> Talibans
> > for the past few years now, with very little funding and very little
> support
> > and failing. He only has 5% of the country and the other 95% by the
> Talibans
> > who are killing our men and children and raping our women. Masood asked
> the
> > US for help years ago against the Taliban and warned them that they are
an
> > extremist group that will not be just a threat to Afghans in
Afghanistan,
> > but a threat to the world. Guess who has been hiding under the Taliban
> > govt... Bin Ladin who is suspected for this tragic event.
> >
> > We then lived in Pakistan for 2 1/2 years till we got our visas to come
to
> > the US (NYC). My father was a very well known doctor in Afghanistan and
> when
> > we came here, he wasn't allowed to practice medicine till he passed the
> > American exams. In order for him to do so, he would have to learn
English
> as
> > a second language first, then try to pass the American exams... not easy
> to
> > do with all the trauma sustained as refugees watching missiles flown
over
> > your head and watching loved ones blown apart. It took him another 8
years
> > to do so. In the 8 years, he drove a cab for the first 5 years, just to
> make
> > ends meet and then landed a job as an X-Ray Technician. Finally he
passed
> > and became a doctor, working for a prestigious hospital and now at the
> scene
> > of the WTC helping others. We also have our own practice in Astoria,
> Queens
> > in our home. He accepts Medicaid, knowing they don't pay doctors
anything,
> > but wanted to give low income families the same privileges of seeing a
> > doctor without waiting 4 hours in ER. My older sister is in her 4th year
> Med
> > school and every night after her shifts in Long Island, she commutes to
> St.
> > Vincents and volunteers there from 8:00 - 1:00 am. Then back to Long
> Island
> > at 6:00 am in the morning. I try to go there every night to NJ and try
to
> > give out water and food to the bravest people in our country, the
firemen
> > and police.
> >
> > I am Afghan by blood, but an American at heart for I have lived here for
> > over 20 years of my life. I am also a Muslim, practicing peace and
harmony
> > amongst my friends. My boss and very close friend is Jewish. So is my
> > colleague and second father on this group, you know who you are my
friend.
> > There are many Muslims that are peaceful people by the teachings of our
> > religion. I ask all of you not to be fooled my extremists blanketing
> > themselves with religion as true followers of that religion. God DID NOT
> say
> > to kill yourself for me and take innocent lives with you. We don't live
in
> a
> > time where that should take place. I also don't remember the Nazi's
being
> > Muslim... yet they killed more Jews, Muslims and Christians that were
not
> of
> > the Arian race than any others. Does that make me hate Germans? Of
course
> > NOT! I hate those that still think like the Nazi's, which include Bin
> Ladin.
> >
> > I would applaud the US bombing Afghanistan, but bombing the Taliban
> military
> > camps where they have been hiding Bin Ladin and others. The US is the
best
> > country in the world in my eyes and nothing can ever change that. Please
> > don't let acts like this blind everyone else as well and target
religions,
> > when you should be targeting specific groups (terrorist groups), and
those
> > who condone this violent acts.
> >
> > I wish nothing but peace and hope that Christians, Jews, Muslims and
other
> > religions can unite to fight against the world of terror and come
together
> > in times of need like this. My father comes back with stories of how
> people
> > of different nationalities came together to help the victims of
different
> > nationalities as well. Terrorists don't even care for their own kind...
so
> > unfortunately you see victims off all races and religions. I fear for my
> > family because of our background... but that will not stop us from doing
> > what our job as humans are, being kind to one another and still go and
> help
> > any which way we can by the scene at WTC.
> >
> > PS: If you hadn't guessed already, Raymond is an alias used in business,
> > Rahmeen is my birth name.
> >
> > Raymond Thomas
> > Vice President
> > Lewis Consultants International, Inc.
> > 516-498-2300 ext. 104 (NY office)
> > 646-526-6171 cell
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Erika Gifford
> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:19 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES [3:3336]
> >
> >
> > My husband told me yesterday that Russia has 2 planes
> > loaded with supplies waiting for approval to fly here.
> >
> >
> > Raymond - what is your country of origin? Canada?
> >
> > E~
> >
> > --- Raymond Thomas
> > wrote:
> > > I an American citizen, not born in America but been
> > > here for 20 years, have
> > > to say that this was absolutely one of the best
> > > articles I have ever read. I
> > > see the Presidents and Prime Ministers "backing up
> > > any decision the United
> > > States will make", but I think we would like more
> > > relief efforts from
> > > abroad. I don't know if they can get them into the
> > > US... but the offer would
> > > be greatly appreciated, just like the US sent out
> > > relief forces to countries
> > > in need during natural disasters, etc.
> > >
> > > May God bless all those that went to rescue our
> > > people and those that are
> > > still there trying.
> > >
> > > Raymond Thomas
> > > Vice President
> > > Lewis Consultants International, Inc.
> > > 516-498-2300 ext. 104 (NY office)
> > > 646-526-6171 cell
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Harris, Joe F
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:49 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: OT: A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES [3:3336]
> > >
> > >
> > > I know this is off topic but I just received this in
> > > my email box and after
> > > reading I thought I would throw it out here and see
> > > what the rest of this
> > > group thought about it. These are the words of a
> > > Canadian commentator, not
> > > mine, so please no flames. Also, I understand that
> > > this is a list related to
> > > jobs and that is not the topic of this email, so I
> > > have titled it OT (off
> > > topic), however he speaks with strong words and
> > > there are people from many
> > > countries and many diverse backgrounds on this. What
> > > does everyone think...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES
> > >
> > > This, from a Canadian newspaper, is worth sharing.
> > >
> > > America: The Good Neighbor.
> > >
> > >
> > > Widespread but only partial news coverage
> > > was given recently to a remarkable editorial
> > > broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a
> > > Canadian
> > > television commentator. What follows is the full
> > > text
> > > of his trenchant remarks as printed in the
> > > Congressional Record:
> > >
> > > "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the
> > > Americans as the most generous and possibly the
> > > least
> > > appreciated people on all the earth.
> > >
> > > Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and
> > > Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the
> > > Americans who poured in billions of dollars and
> > > forgave other billions in debts. None of these
> > > countries is today paying even the interest on its
> > > remaining debts to the United States.
> > >
> > > When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956,
> > > it was the Americans who propped it up, and their
> > > reward was to be insulted and swindled on the
> > > streets
> > > of Paris. I was there. I saw it.
> > >
> > > When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the
> > > United States that hurries in to help. This spring,
> > > 59
> > > American communities were flattened by tornadoes.
> > > Nobody helped.
> > >
> > > The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped
> > > billions of dollars!
> > > into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those
> > > countries are writing
> > > about the decadent, warmongering Americans.
> > >
> > > I'd like to see just one of those countries that
> > > is gloating over the erosion of the United States
> > > dollar build its own airplane. Does any other
> > > country
> > > in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo
> > > Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10?
> > > If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the
> > > International lines except Russia fly American
> > > Planes?
> > >
> > > Why does no other land on earth even consider
> > > putting
> > > a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese
> > > technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about
> > > German
> > > technocracy, and you get automobiles.
> > >
> > > You talk about American technocracy, and you find
> > > men on the moon -! not once, but several times -
> > > and safely home again.
> > >
> > > You talk about scandals, and the Americans put
> > > theirs
> > > right in the store window for everybody to look at.
> > > Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and
> > > hounded.
> > > They are here on our streets, and most of them,
> > > unless
> > > they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting
> > > American
> > > dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.
> > >
> > > When the railways of France, Germany and India were
> > > breaking down through
> > > age,
> > > it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the
> > > Pennsylvania Railroad and
> > > the
> > > New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an
> > > old caboose. Both are
> > > still broke.
> > >
> > > I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced
> > > to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name
> > > me even one time when someone else raced to the
> > > Americans in trouble? I
> > > don't think there was outside help even during the
> > > San Francisco earthquake.
> > >
> > >
> > > Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one
> > > Canadian who is damned tired
> > > of hearing them get kicked around. They will come
> > > out of this thing with
> > > their
> > > flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to
> > > thumb their nose at the
> > > lands
> > > that are gloating over their present troubles. I
> > > hope Canada is not one of
> > > those."
> > >
> > >
> > ***************************************************************
> > > Stand proud, America!
> > >
> > > This is one of the best editorials that I have ever
> > > read regarding the United States. It is nice that
> > > one man realizes it. I only wish that the rest of
> > > the
> > > world would realize it. We are always blamed for
> > > everything and never even get a thank you for the
> > > things we do.
> > >
> > > I would hope that each of you would send this to
> > > as many people as you can and emphasize that they
> > > should send it to as many of their friends until
> > > this
> > > letter is sent to every person on the web. I am just
> > > a
> > > single American that has read this.
> > >
> > > I SURE HOPE THAT A LOT MORE READ IT SOON.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Peter French
> > > > Wellington Management Company, LLP
> > > > 200 State Street
> > > > Boston, MA 02109
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