I've been playing around with FRTS, LLQ, along with some BBQ lately and I'm having some issues. As soon as I apply FRTS to a router, the router performance goes down the tubes. Latency through the router increases *greatly* and I can see no reason for it. I've made these changes thanks to an engineer at Cisco who forwarded a document to me that explains how to configure all of the above for VoIP. Have any of you noticed anything like this? I know this is a really vague problem but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway. Here are the relevant portions of the config: class-map match-any voicecalls match ip precedence 4 match access-group 140 class-map match-all VoIP-Control match access-group name VoIP-Control ! ! policy-map voice class voicecalls priority 256 class VoIP-Control bandwidth 8 class class-default fair-queue ! interface Serial0/0.18 point-to-point ip address 10.12.24.70 255.255.255.0 frame-relay interface-dlci 18 class VoIP ! ! Four other PVCs snipped. Only 0/0.18 has the frame relay class VoIP attached. ! map-class frame-relay VoIP no frame-relay adaptive-shaping frame-relay cir 768000 frame-relay bc 3000 frame-relay be 0 frame-relay mincir 768000 service-policy output voice frame-relay fragment 320 When I apply "frame-relay traffic-shaping" to Serial0/0, that's when things get really weird. I start getting a bunch of output drops on that interface even though there's hardly any traffic at all going through. Latency increases unbelievably and becomes really variable and unpredictable. BTW, this is a full T-1. Any ideas? thanks, John (just kidding about the BBQ) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=20018&t=20018 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]