I can't speak for every telco but I don't think we do anything unusual
when it comes to T1 point-to-point circuits, deliver 1's and 0's not
clock.  What you did is not only the solution it is the correct way to
provision a p-t-p circuit.

  Dave

Daniel Cotts wrote:
> 
> I recently had a similar issue with no clock provided one end due
> (supposedly to some piece of telco gear). In any case we didn't know that
> was happening. We assumed clocking was from the line. It would fail
> intermittantly every few days during idle traffic times. The solution was
to
> provide internal clocking on the unclocked end.
> Let's call the unclocked end "A" and the end receiving clocking "B". Until
> we found the trouble the quick fix was to loop B back on itself for a
minute
> then pull the loop down. It would always resync. With an internal CSU you
> can view the line with show controllers t1 int number. It logs error counts
> in 15 min intervals. A show controllers t1 will give 24hr totals. The error
> message at B would be something like Loss of Frame received sending alarm.
> Are you saying that the remote end can put a loop back towards you and you
> can then do extended pings to your own ip address?
> 
> Config should look like the following:
> controller T1 0/1
>  framing esf
>  linecode b8zs
>  channel-group 0 timeslots 1-24 speed 64
> (I learned about not including the speed parameter the hard way.)
> !
> interface Serial0/1:0
>  ip address 10.xxx.1.3 255.255.255.0
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stephen Hoover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 9:47 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: T1 install; line protocol going down and up every 30 seconds
> > [7:21848]
> >
> >
> > I am working on point to point T1 install at a small office. The line
> > protocol keeps going up and down every 30 seconds and I
> > cannot ping myself.
> > My keepalive timers are not incrementing. The telco provider
> > says that they
> > are not providing the clock on this line and that we need to do so
> > ourselves. My condition remains the same whether I set my
> > clock to line or
> > internal. The router on the remote end however seems to be
> > ready to go when
> > they set their clock source to line. When they set to
> > internal, the telco
> > provider sees framing errors on the line.
> >
> > Does it seem feasible that there is a clock source somewhere
> > back towards
> > there end of the line that their router can receive and mine
> > cannot? I am
> > working with the IT staff on the remote end of the link, but
> > none of us seem
> > to have any idea where else to go with this problem.
> >
> > My system works fine when I put my DSU in local loopback and
> > it works when I
> > put their DSU in remote loopback - so I *think* the hardware is sound.
> >
> > Any help is appreciated!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Stephen Hoover
-- 
David Madland
Sr. Network Engineer
CCIE# 2016
Qwest Communications Int. Inc.
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