At 08:21 PM 10/22/01, xie rootstock wrote:
>why 2 repeaters only gains five meters of distance?simply because it
>increases the number of ports avaiable in the system
>
>from lan switching

It sounds like you're reading a book on switching when you should be 
reading a book on basic Ethernet. Look for books by Charles Spurgeon. They 
are terrific. Also his Web site here is great:

http://www.ots.utexas.edu/ethernet/

Also I wrote a paper on Ethernet for http://www.certificationzone.com, 
which I will quote from below.

As far as 2 repeaters and 5 meters, I guess you must be referring to the 
typical example used for 100BaseT with two class II repeaters. The examples 
usually say that there can be only 5 meters between the repeaters. This 
assumes that the length of cabling from the repeaters to end stations is 
100 meters. The max collision domain for 100BaseT with copper cabling is 
205 meters. You could use more than 5 meters between the repeaters if you 
weren't already using 100 meters for each node (or if you used fiber-optic 
cabling).

The reason the length of cabling between the repeaters is short is that 
"the round-trip propagation delay in one collision domain must not exceed 
the time it takes a sender to transmit 512 bits, which is 51.2 5s for 
10-Mbps Ethernet, but only 5.12 5s for 100-Mbps Ethernet. A single 
collision domain must be limited in size so that a station sending a 
minimum-sized frame (64 bytes or 512 bits) can detect a collision 
reflecting back from the opposite side of the network, while the station is 
still sending the frame. Otherwise, the station would be finished sending 
and not listening for a collision, thus losing the efficiency of Ethernet 
to detect a collision and quickly retransmit the frame. For a higher layer 
to notice that the frame needs retransmitting takes much more time. 
Ethernet retransmissions occur within nanoseconds.

With some exceptions, 100-Mbps Ethernet is simply standard Ethernet, just 
ten times faster. In most cases, delay parameters for 100-Mbps Ethernet are 
the same as 10-Mbps, just ten times smaller. As mentioned before, the 
round-trip propagation delay in one Ethernet collision domain must not 
exceed the time it takes a sender to transmit 512 bits, which is only 5.12 
5s on 100-Mbps Ethernet. To make 100-Mbps Ethernet work, there are more 
severe distance limitations than those required for 10-Mbps Ethernet. 
Distance limitations for shared 100-Mbps Ethernet depend on the type of 
repeaters (hubs) that are used. In the IEEE 100BaseT specification, two 
types of repeaters are defined:

Class I repeaters have a latency of 0.7 5s or less. Only one repeater hop 
is allowed.

Class II repeaters have a latency of 0.46 5s or less. One or two repeater 
hops are allowed.

Many Ethernet topologies are possible as long as the round-trip propagation 
delay does not exceed 512 bit times."

If this is a problem, then break up your collision domain (use switches).

Priscilla


>please help me again
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http://www.priscilla.com




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