So, it appears that while we can configure two priority queues, IOS ends
up combining them into a single priority queue.  Is that correct?

This seems to make some sense given the definition of 'priority queue'.
 How could you give absolute priority to two separate queues?  

If that's the case, then you definitely would want to place voice
traffic in the priority queue by itself.  Perhaps then use the
'bandwidth' queueing command for video traffic and then WFQ with or
without WRED for the rest of the traffic.

Then again, when configuring LLQ, we are not configuring an absolute
priority queue.  In this case, the priority queue is good up to a
certain point, limited by the amount of bandwidth apportioned to that
queue.  Let's say we have created a 384k PQ but we have a full T-1
available.  This simply means that any traffic in that queue gets
absolute priority UP TO 384k.  Anything over that gets dropped.

It seems to me that this leaves a lot of room for other priority
queues.  Why should we not be able to create yet another PQ with 384k,
for example?  In my mind this would mean that for a given cycle, the two
priority queues would each get 384k of the 1544k available for output.

However, I think this highlights the issue.  We now have two priority
queues and they can't be serviced at the same time, unless some sort of
interleaving were possible.  Hmmm.....food for thought.

Queueing is just so much fun.  :-)

John

>>> "VoIP Guy"  12/6/01 6:40:40 AM >>>
I like to learn, so forgive me if I am beating this subject, but in
order
for me to become a CCIE, I need to know everything.  I've been reading
up on
the real story on two priority queues, been asking a couple of CCIE's
and
been on CCO.  Just as I suspected, there is only 1 PQ in LLQ, or any
queuing
method for that matter.  If you enter two (or more) different classes
to
have strict priority, the all enter the same priority queue.  To quote
from
Cisco:

"...The Low Latency Queueing feature provides strict priority queueing
for
CBWFQ, reducing jitter in voice conversations. Configured by the
priority
command, Low Latency Queueing enables use of a single, strict priority
queue
within CBWFQ at the class level, allowing you to direct traffic
belonging to
a class to the CBWFQ strict priority queue. To enqueue class traffic to
the
strict priority queue, you configure the priority command for the
class
after you specify the named class within a policy map. (Classes to
which the
priority command is applied are considered priority classes.) Within a
policy map, you can give one or more classes priority status. When
multiple
classes within a single policy map are configured as priority classes,
all
traffic from these classes is enqueued to the same, single, strict
priority
queue...."

Here is the link for surther study.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/120newft/120

t/120t7/pqcbwfq.htm

I am still researching Mike's claim that states that fast-switching
bypasses
the counters for the queue.  I will set up an experiment later on today
in
the lab.  I know for a fact that with fast-switching, there still are
queues, but maybe Mike's right in stating that the counters aren't
used.
I'll let you know.

Steve



""Steve Ridder""  wrote in message
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> It definitly works, but I've always been told to use 1 priority queue
for
> voice, then CBQ the SNA and video and WFQ with WRED on the rest.
>
> They say voice is most important because it has the highest human
> perception, and humans will notice bad voice before bad video.
>
> Steve
>
>
> ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> > I can immediately think of one example.  Let's say you have a T-1
access
> > link with multiple data types that include VoIP and video
conferencing.
> > You want to make sure that VoIP traffic gets its own priority
queue, so
> > let's say you give it 384k.  You then want to give the video
> > conferencing traffic another priority queue because it's such a
> > high-visibility technology, so you allow it to use another 384k.
> >
> > This would leave roughly half of the link available for other data
> > types during periods of congestion while making sure your high
priority
> > applications (pun intended) do not drop packets and have the
lowest
> > latency possible on that link.
> >
> > I will be attempting exactly this sometime next year when we roll
out
> > VoIP to a branch that already has video conferencing.  To make
matters
> > more interesting, this is on a frame relay link, not a
point-to-point
> > link.  Lotsa fun!
> >
> > I had heard, though, that only one priority statement was
possible.
> > You're saying that you successfully used two?  That's good news for
me,
> > I was starting to get worried.  I'd be interested to find out if
it
> > truly behaved as expected when experiencing congestion.  If you
test
> > this out, please let us know what you find.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John
> >
> > >>> "VoIP Guy"  12/5/01 1:51:13 PM >>>
> > Has anyone ever seen 2 priority queue's in LLQ?  What would be the
> > reason
> > and how would those 2 get serviced?  Round Robin?  FIFO?  It does
work
> > beucasue I just saw it on a config and tried it myself, but can't
> > figure out
> > why they did it.
> >
> > Steve




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