I have used:

 A) 'All-in-One' first edition and a look at the 2nd edition of it.
 B) 'CCIE Lab Practice kit' ISBN 0-07-212766-X also by Hutnik
 C) 'IPeXpert Lab workbook'

A) All-in-one seems to be the standard starting book and covers the
technologies. The labs are trivial and illustrate individual points
requiring approx. 3 - 4 routers but is a good starting point. Get 2nd
edition as it is improved and has additions on VoIP, DLSW, QoS, & MPLS.

B) 'Lab Practice Kit'
1) As has been pointed out there are a number of mistakes, some silly
ones which begs the question was it proof read properly. However, if you
are any way close to taking the lab then these should be trivial for you
to spot.

2) The 6 scenarios are a good half way house between the 'labettes' in
All-in-One covering a single point and the full lab simulations in
IPeXpert.  The scenarios are done on a topic by topic basis and as such
are quite good but be aware that you should be thinking of putting
aspects of all 6 topics into a single lab to get to the level of
interaction and complexity needed in preparation for the real lab.

3) Unlike IPeXpert which is based on a single physical topology, each
lab is different so when you want to try another lab you have to shuffle
the interface modules around and swap cables over.  Personally I prefer
to build a single physical topology and work with it for a good while,
particularly now that the cabling aspects are no longer part of the lab
exam.

4) You need 7 or 8 routers to complete the labs plus ISDN switch plus
CAT. It is helpful if one of the routers is a terminal server.

5) The book is $60 compared with $450 for IPeXpert and $650 for
CCBOOTCAMP. You get what you pay for. In my opinion worth the $60 but
not to be compared with the full lab work books.

C) IPeXpert workbook. I have the original version 1.0A to which Wayne
has sent me the 1.1 and version 2.0 updates. There are some mistakes
particularly in v1.0 but Wayne seems to correct them as they are
discovered. This is divided into 2 sections: the first covers the
technologies, the second contains 5 full lab simulations. (There is a
sixth 1 day lab included in the version 2.0 material). As I have already
said there is a single physical topology so you can quickly change from
one lab scenario to the next.

1) This is not light on equipment!  It has fairly extensive coverage
including VoIP, DLSW, & ATM. There are 9 routers to configure in the lab
(one of which is the Frame Relay switch R3 and two of which are dual LAN
Token Ring / Ethernet) and you also require 3 additional backbone
routers, a terminal server, a CAT and a Basic Rate ISDN
switch/simulator. If you are careful in your choice of routers you can
reduce this by doubling up the function of R3 with one of the backbone
routers and the terminal server with the function of another backbone
router. But that is still 11 routers!

2) The breadth and depth of coverage of topics seems to be adequate. The
simulated labs seem to have slightly more fiddly bits and gotchas than
the real thing. 

3) The main pain IMHO is that all the 'Show' outputs and example
solutions are only on the CD so although the workbook itself is quite
compact you end up with a couple of reams of paper to print off from the
CD.

4) The diagrams are in colour which helps.

5) Watch out solutions are all given using 12.0 features! Some of which
also have other solutions that could be run on 11.2 or even 11.3.  This
also feeds into point 1 - the equipment requirements are not light! You
may need to upgrade the Flash & DRAM on all 11 routers to run 12.0
Enterprise Plus IOS!

6) The 1 day lab is divided into 5 parts: the morning, the afternoon,
moderators comments (I found this helpful to review what was wanted),
the 'show' o/p, and the example solution. 

7) IPeXpert workbook labs are no where near as well represented on
GroupStudy as are the CCBootcamp ones.

8) The IPeXpert labs are reputed to be more up to date than the
CCBootcamp ones though not having seen the later I am not in a position
to comment either way.

9) Wayne is fairly responsive by email to comments and questions.


On the whole I am enjoying working through the scenarios in all 3
resources and feel that they complement each other rather than compete.
 

Peter


In article , Elijah Savage
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>Does anyone have any comments on this book not many reviews on Amazon. A
>guy at work said this thing was so full of mistakes that he got so angry
>and took it out to the gun range and filled it full of 44magnum holes
>and has it displayed on his desk now, I just can't take his word for it
>and the few reviews on Amazon were good reviews. 
>
>Cisco CCIE
>All In One Lab Lab Study Guide
>ISBN 0-07-212760-0
>By Stephen Hutnik & Micheal Satterlee
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