Hi all,

I believe what your are seeing is called "proxy arp".  Unix and Ms handle
this differently.  The firewall will proxy arp for the client on the inside
of the firewall.  This means that you must tell the firewall that when the
router does a broadcast for the arp of a virtual ip to answer with it's own
MAC address.  This is what provides the connectivity on a checkpoint
firewall for internal static NAT clients. 

THis is because Checkpoint does not use "native" ms/unix ware for publishing
these ip's.  In other words you don't add an address to the unix/nt boxes
with your standard system commands.  Consequently, you must tell the
firewall explicitly to do this functionality via - unix (route add / arp -s)
commands with a startup script.  In NT you must add static routes and creat
the local.arp file.  IN addition with NT, because it doesn't handle proxy
arp very well you must route the packets directly to the outside interface
of the firewall.  ie a host route on your router routing outside virtual ip
to the outside "real" address of the firewall interface.

You don't see this with other firewalls, such as gauntlet for NT as  you add
virtual ip's using network neighbourhood, so NT handles the proxy arp for
you without any additional config.

Hope this helps,

ciaron

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Odette II
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 12/15/01 6:19 PM
Subject: RE: incomplete ARP table - one for the X files [7:29283]

Is the CP FW a NT box, a Sun Box, or a Nokia Appliance?

A way to confirm that it is the Firewall itself, and not the routing
functionality of the platform, shutdown CP with the option to allow IP
forwarding while the Firewall is down.

If you then get full two-way connectivity and communication, I would say
it's a FW rule, or CP bug that needs to be addressed with updating CP
with
the most current Service Pack.


I used to manage a network that used NT as the platform, and then the
Nokia
Appliance as the platform with a couple of Sun boxes (also running as
Firewalls) mixed in, and I never had any problems doing what your
describing.  It was always just a matter of making sure you had your
rules
straight.

IPSO and NT (the Operating Systems) were pretty solid as far as IP
forwarding was concerned.
If you are running CP on a Sun box, you might want to verify it's
routing
table.... That's a more complicated bear, if you don't understand how to
configure the network parameters on a sun box...(it took me a couple of
hours and re-reading the man pages to finally figure out that problem
:))

HTHs
Mark Odette II
StellarConnection Services

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Tim Begley
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 5:32 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: incomplete ARP table - one for the X files [7:29283]


Hi - I've come across something strange (strange to me anyway)when
deploying
a router on lan segment with a checkpoint fw. I can 'fix' the problem
but I
have no idea what is causing it. If somebody could enlighten me I'd
appreciate it.

The scenario is:

There is a 1720 that has a static route configured to route a particular
subnet or address via the address of the checkpoint fw interface on that
lan
segment (very complicated stuff I know but stay with me ;-) ).

Now this is where the funny business starts - you attempt to get end to
end
connectivity to the host you are trying to get to on the other side of
the
Checkpoint and it won't work.

1. Do a debug ip packet detail and you get encapsulation failed...

2. Look at the arp table on the 1720 and there are 2 complete arp
entries -
1 for fe0 and 1 for the checkpoint. THERE IS ALSO AN INCOMPLETE ENTRY
FOR
THE HOST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FIREWALL (which of course is on a
different subnet).

3. Scratch head and frown

4. Try a static arp entry mapping the ip address of the host on the
other
side of the firewall to the MAC address of the firewall and presto it
works!

I've run into this situation a few times now and the there is always a
checkpoint involved so I'm guessing that it may have something to do
with
the routing capability of the checkpoint?

I know that this is a cisco discussion group but I think this is still
fairly relevant.

Any advice much appreciated - Tim
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