Not sure how cisco does PPPoE but shouldn't that make it easier being
that it'd be a seperate interface, no?

Mark Odette II wrote:
> 
> Good point there Chuck.  I should have paid closer attention to that little
> detail in my last post... DOH!
> 
> The rest of what I said still stands though, as is the majority response-
> NAT will have to be used.
> 
> ... though, I must say, Darrell's most recent reply to this thread was
> definitely interesting to me... never seen, or thought of that type of
> solution before... Will have to keep that in mind for those
single-interface
> Cisco router situations.  Of course, it probably won't work for PPPoE DSL,
> unless you can specify "next-hop 'interface-name'" in the route map I
> suppose.  Hmm... very interesting.
> 
> Mark Odette II
> ... who should be in bed at this time (12:30am CST). :)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 11:41 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: can't ping an address from anywhere but the router itself
> [7:30514]
> 
> I presume we all understand that 250.x.x.x is a fictitious address, i.e. is
> used here as an example, and cannot legally be used for any reason. :->
> 
> If Pac Bell assigned you a /24, and stated that dot 254 is the DSL gateway,
> do they mean that is your DSL router's ethernet port? that is, do you have
a
> different address for the DSL/ATM side of things?
> 
> My own experience is you have to be careful about what Pac Bell says.
> sometimes the terminology they use can be misleading to those of us in
> Ciscoland. ;->
> 
> I would expect that you would be doing NAT between your inside ( 192.x.x.x
)
> network and the public space you have been assigned.
> 
> internet-----DSL_router---------firewall/router---------inside
> 
> are you doing something different?
> 
> Chuck
> 
> ""Ole Drews Jensen""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > First of all John, I don't believe this is a very good way of doing this,
> > because you are actually running two different networks on the same LAN:
> > 192.168.0.0/24 and 250.100.100.238/8.
> >
> > Anyway, I believe the problem lies in that the DSL GATEWAY has a default
> > gateway that points to PacBell, so when it receives a ping echo from your
> > workstation on network 192.168.0.0/24, it see's that it's not on it's own
> > network, and sends the ping reply to its default gateway, and your
> > workstation never receives the reply.
> >
> > In order for ping to work, the traffic must be able to travel both
> > directions.
> >
> > I don't know what kind of DSL gateway you have, but if you can tell it to
> > route traffic destined for network 192.168.0.0/24 to the router
> > (250.100.100.238), it should work, because the echo reply would then find
> > its way back to the workstation you're pinging from.
> >
> > Hth,
> >
> > Ole
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >  Ole Drews Jensen
> >  Systems Network Manager
> >  CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
> >  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Mairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 4:27 PM
> > To: Ole Drews Jensen
> > Subject: RE: can't ping an address from anywhere but the router itself
> > [7:30328]
> >
> >
> > Im sorry, you're right, my explanation was not very
> > clear. the inside network is 192.168.0.0/24 and all
> > devices on that network are hosts. the addresses for
> > the list you have below is. lets say
> >
> > 250.100.100.254/24 (DSL gateway)
> > 250.100.100.238/24 (Static IP assigned to me from
> > pacbell assigned to e0 to)
> > 250.100.100.230/24 (for fun my printer)
> >
> > I can, from any host on the 192.168.0.0/24 (inside
> > network [192.168.0.1 e0 secondary) successfully ping
> > .238 and .230 but not .254
> >
> > from the router I can successfully ping everything
> > including the gateway (.254).
> >
> > if I can ping .238 and the printer .230 from the
> > inside network (which means that the 2501 is resolving
> > or routing those addresses on the outside network) I
> > don't understand why .254 in unreachable (times out)
> >
> > here is the config
> >
> > Router3#show conf
> > using 886 pit pf 32762 bytes
> > !
> > version 11.2
> > no service password-encryption
> > no service udp-small-servers
> > no service udp-small-servers
> > !
> > hostname Router3
> > !
> > enable secret 5 $1$llkfflkaiey.ddfakdjfadlkjrlll
> > enable password cisco
> > !
> > no ip domain-lookup
> > !
> > interface ethernet0
> >  ip address 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0 secondary
> >  ip address 250.100.100.238 255.255.255.0
> >  no mop enabled
> > !
> > interface Serial0
> >  no ip address
> > !
> > interface Serial1
> >  no ip address
> > !
> > ip classless
> > ip route 192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 250.100.100.254
> > !
> > banner login ^C
> > What in the hell do YOU want?
> >
> > ^C
> > banner motd ^C
> > By the way...how do you say "Elway" in pig latin?
> >
> > ^C
> > !
> > line con 0
> > line aux 0
> > line vty 0 4
> >  password cisco
> >  login
> > !
> > end
> >
> > Router3#
> >
> > --- Ole Drews Jensen  wrote:
> > > Maybe it's just me, but I'm a little confused here.
> > >
> > > As far as I can read on your e-mail, you have the
> > > following:
> > >
> > > On network 192.168.0.0 / 24
> > >
> > > 192.168.0.230 Printer
> > > 192.168.0.238 Router
> > > 192.168.0.254 Gateway
> > >
> > > If you ping from the inside network to any of the
> > > three devices (above), the
> > > router should not route anything, because you're
> > > pinging to the same network
> > > you're on.
> > >
> > > I am not sure how exactly your whole setup is, but
> > > you should check that the
> > > subnet mask is / 24 (or 255.255.255.0) on all
> > > devices on the 192.168.0.0
> > > network.
> > >
> > > Send the config from the router and gateway, plus a
> > > description on how all
> > > these things are connected.
> > >
> > > Hth,
> > >
> > > Ole
> > >
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >  Ole Drews Jensen
> > >  Systems Network Manager
> > >  CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
> > >  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
> > >  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >  http://www.RouterChief.com
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> > >  http://www.oledrews.com/job
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John Mairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:57 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: can't ping an address from anywhere but the
> > > router itself
> > > [7:30316]
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have DSL with a static IP address/24. the gateway
> > > address is x.x.x.254 and the static IP/24 address
> > > that
> > > I have assigned the router is x.x.x.238. for fun I
> > > assigned x.x.x.230 to my printer.
> > >
> > > all addresses on the inside network are
> > > 192.168.0.x/24.
> > >
> > > I can ping x.x.x.238 and x.x.x.230 but not x.x.x.254
> > > from the inside network.
> > >
> > > I can ping x.x.x.254 from the router (2501 with
> > > secondary ethernet)
> > >
> > > I can't understand why the router will route to the
> > > printer (x.x.x.230) but not the gateway (x.x.x.254)
> > >
> > > I am confused about my router's prejudicial ways.
> > >
> > > any thoughts
> > >
> > > =====
> > > John L. Mairs
> > >
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