Ben, I'm afraid that when I answered your post it was already buried under
tons of other post. I'm sorry, these are the consequences of living in
Europe...:->
Anyway, thanks for your detailed answer, I hope to get more detailed
specifications (CPU, memory,...) asap, but by now I have only said the
following:

I'm afraid I have no idea what happened but I'm think that it wasn't a
problem with CPU unless summarization is a very intensive cpu process(I
don't know if it is).
We have a hub-and-spoke topology. Four 7500 (2 7513 and 2 7507) for
full-meshed backbone (ATM)and over 230 sites (2500 an 2600 mainly), and we
have implemented redundancy using dialers and ISDN connections (and yes, we
have conected each router to two different hub routers). In one of the 7513
we have over 100 dialers and 90 serial WANs connections, I have tried the
summarization again with only two routers and by now, I haven't experimented
any problem.
As you can guess, our network is growing more and more and I'm worried about
routing tables with a lot of entries (we're using network 172.x.x.x for
serial interfaces and 10.x.x.x for ethernet interfaces)
I tried to summarize on networks 10.x.x.x and 172.x.x.x using the following
commands
ip summary-address eigrp 1 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 
ip summary-address eigrp 1 172.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 
Today, I have talked with my boss and we've decided to try the summarization
again but we're going to use the 0.0.0.0 network instead the other two (I'll
try to check my RSP in-depth this time)
Anyway, we're not experts in Cisco so I thought that we could reduce routing
tables using summary address and make easier the administration and
troubleshooting (perhaps it isn't a good idea). Unfortunatly, we work in a
helth-care enviroment, and we have to make sure before doing anything in
backbone routers.
I hope you read this post, I live in Europe and every time I have to reply a
post I have hundreds before me. Anyway, I'll keep you and this wonderful
group informed.

David 


I've done it with about 100 interfaces on 7513's and didn't see this 
problem. It may be a limitation of the code on the box, memory (as you 
indicated), or something else. Have you been able to rule-out as many 
"something elses" as possible? 

What does the network topology look like? Do you have redundancy in place - 
e.g. spoke routers connected to two different hub routers? Are you getting 
a lot of SIAs? Routes flapping, etc.? How's the CPU on your RSP's looking? 
Free memory? Buffer misses? 

There's a common view that EIGRP works fine and can scale infinitely big 
without going through all of the steps that you'd have to go through for a 
large-scale OSPF installation. 
Obviously, this thought is very wrong. 

I'm guessing that you need to do manual summarization on 200 interfaces per 
box is because you don't have clearly-defined summarization points in the 
network - that's the situation I was in when I had to do it on ~100 
interfaces. For good or ill, EIGRP will work with a bad network design (I'm 
speaking from an ideal perspective - please don't be offended, we all have 
to things at one time or another that are considered "bad") up until a 
point. Beyond that point, it gets really ugly - quickly. 

In the network I was working on we had 140 sites connected without problems. 
We started adding more offices and by the time we hit 170 the network was 
totally unstable. After several weeks of P1/CAP cases we met with the guys 
who write the code and found out what we were doing wrong - they have since 
published several CiscoPress books on EIGRP; none existed four years ago :) 

You can "band-aid" a broken network by using a lot of the EIGRP features 
(manual summarization, distribute-lists, etc.). In my case that's exactly 
what we did, unfortunately, I was not given the opportunity to correct the 
mistakes that required the band-aids. I have since moved on to new 
challenges but that network is still in the same state - four years later. 

Anyhow, if you can offer more specifics, I'm sure those of us on the list 
would be happy to comment and offer suggestions. I think that if we can 
solve the reason you need to manually summarize on 200 interfaces you'll be 
better off down the road. 

Ben 

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Hello folks, 
I'm working in a EIGRP enviroment, and I have some questions for you: 

Has anyone tried to do a manual route sumarization per interface with more 
or less 200 interfaces in a 7500? 
I've tried but I'm having a few problems, the summary routes aren't 
advertised sufficiently fast to the routers in branch offices. 
The summary routes are sometimes marked as "possibly down" in the routers of 
branch offices, sometimes are up and sometimes are down. 

Do you know any relationship between memory or cpu (or whatever) of the 7500 
and number of interfaces in which you can perform manual summarization? 

David 



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