Chuck, There are still some very large Token Ring installations, although I don't know why. I would think it would be cheaper to phase it out during regular maintenance.
As for forward looking? I don't think that's what the CCIE is for. CCIE means you know (or should know) what you are doing with current core technologies. Not new, popular, technologies. Although, there is the CCIE Security certification, which deals with newer stuff. People at Cisco have talked about a AVVID type CCIE certification, too. My opinion is CCIE is right for what people need. You can show your strengths by selecting the one matching your skills the best. Or for that matter, by selecting multiples. Besides, it provides Cisco with another revenue stream. Ken >>> "Chuck Larrieu" 02/02/02 11:32PM >>> [snip] 2) what is it Cisco really considers CCIE level skill? In the past, things like DecNet, Apollo, and Vines were core topics. Cisco has recently dropped those, plus ATM LANE, presumably in response to market conditions. Which leads one to ask - why token ring? The only real world token ring project I have been involved with the past couple of years is ripping them out and replacing them with ethernet. The apologia that there are still some major token ring networks around is a bit lame. There are still some major DecNet networks around, I'm sure. Until very recently ( and maybe they still are ), a major utility company out this way was still running Vines. As was the U.S Navy. 3) Is the CCIE a forward looking certification or not? Based on what I am seeing in the marketplace, the advanced skill levels that one needs to meet demand center around VPN, VoIP, wireless, security, and the underlying infrastructure required to support these technologies. that means lots of QoS, switching, L2-L3 interaction, ATM, giga-whatever, etc. [snip] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=34272&t=34244 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]