Errmmm...

i wasn`t trying to start a flame war.....and i appologise for introducing 
this to the list...

MY BAD....


in responce to my own email...

the point i was trying to get across..is this....

CISCO....there are other memebers of society who would benefit from this 
training just as much or even more so than convicts...

i wish big companies would think abit more about what they do...and the 
feelings they will prevoke
...

enough said,,,,hey my friends !!!???





>From: "steve skinner" 
>Reply-To: "steve skinner" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: MAJOR  OT: Free CCNPtraining for convicts [7:34039]
>Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 07:46:41 -0500
>
>guys,
>
>my boss has just told me that cisco are trailing a few prisons where they
>are offering free CCNP training to convicts....
>
>man does that just bite the buscuit.....
>
>i worked long and hard to pay for my exams.....get some work experience
>....and at my expence (bieng a tax payer)i am funding a convict to learn
>about cisco.....
>
>i know about re-abilitation.....but it is just a bit sick that i as an
>individual,could
>
>a) been robbed by this man ... my house is trashed and my insurence goes up
>(i pay )
>b) funding him in prison to learn Cisco (i pay)
>c) comes out of prison and de-vaules a cert becuse he has no experience (i
>pay)
>
>
>does cisco want to have a "useless" cert system....(except ofcourse the
>CCIE)....because the more people who BLANTENTLY DONT have any experience
>witht these certs ...the less they mean...
>
>
>i`m  sorry to rant....but sometimes i wish company`s would consider there
>future..
>
>FACT (from Cisco) there will always be more jobs for NA/NP than IE`s
>
>1)i get exams to be employable...
>2)in order to get these exams i push the company`s kit ..
>
>i have recently installed some 4000`s over another companies kit,even
>thought the other kit is more than capable of doing the job..because i get 
>a
>side benefit of learning about the equipment and increasing my CV value
>....
>
>3)if i am working at a company and i dont want a cisco cert because it is
>worthless..why would i push that companies products..
>
>i would simply push another company`s products to get my certs in the there
>equipment ,to keep my employability....
>
>4) cisco dont sell as much equipment ....
>5) certs become even more worthless..
>6) cisco sells even less equipment ....as no-one is trained anymore
>7) cisco becomes Novell....(my appologies to all novell staff)...
>
>a little for-thought is all that required...
>
>as my boss says...
>
>" one of my main reson for buying kit is the amount of tech staff availible
>to install/fix the kit...if there`s no staff there no kit"
>
>in a job market that is already depressed that last thing that is needed is
>a flood of Certified but unexperienced people on the market..
>
>the it industry is like no other ,in that fact that we have to CONSTANTLY
>update our skills ...that takes time,money and personal
>sacrfise....something i dont think cisco is at all concernd with...
>
>ahh welll.....
>
>no chance of a "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" list starting any time soon...??
>
>Sorry for the downer....
>
>steve
>
>
>
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