I heard it put very well, and wish I could attribute it but I don't recall
the source:
To paraphrase, it goes something like this:
<>      
Think of what it is your company makes, does or sells ... or is planning on
doing so in the future.
... and how it makes it and/or does it, how much it costs to do so, etc.
... and who it sells it to ... and for how much .. and where this money goes

Think of what differentiates you from your competitors .. quality, quantity,
unique products/information/processes, etc.
        Now think of what would happen to your company if your competition
knew all of this.




Granted - you can argue that this oversimplifies things a little bit, but it
makes a point that will readily hit home with management if nothing else!
Thanks!
TJ
... just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, February 08, 2002 11:07 AM
To:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:        Re: 3DES [7:34756]

The paranoid among us can think of other industries where industrial
espionage might play a part. Insurance, medical, any industry where there
are proprietary processes in place.

Imagine if people had been able to hack Enron :->

Chuck


""Joel Satterley""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Here, here, as long as you re-key every so often, who's going to bother ??
>
>
> ""Daniel Cotts""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > My opinion is that nobody is going to try to intercept and decrypt your
> > traffic unless you deal in very large amounts of money. DES will keep
the
> > curious at bay. It is less processor intensive.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:46 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: 3DES [7:34756]
> > >
> > >
> > > I have been looking at routers/firewalls. I am thinking of going with
> > > the 2611 with a ADSL card, I also want to get a 515. Our office is not
> > > that big yet, but I want to plan for the future. I see that
> > > the Pix 515R
> > > only does DES, but doesn't do 3DES. But when I buy the
> > > router, I can get
> > > it with 3DES. I am just kinda confused, where is the best place to use
> > > 3DES, on the firewall, or on the router? Or it doesn't
> > > matter. The way I
> > > see it, if I wanted to do 3DES on the firewall with the 515, I would
> > > have to buy the 515UR, which is about 10K. I don't really need the
> > > thoughput for 100,000 users just yet though. Any suggestions on this?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Brian Zee MCSE, CCNA, A+
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