All, I think the title says it all. Took the lab today at RTP. 4th time was the charm. I don't know where to begin. Might as well start with the thank you's. Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass. Thanks also to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out in the past with problems. Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list together. As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole story. Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the Novell and MS Certs. After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE written in October 2000. Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP. Didn't know much more than your average CCNP would. Tried again in April, but BGP killed me, and again I didn't make it to day 2. After that, I found a study partner (Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer. Did all the bootcamp labs, thought I knew everything I needed to. November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab. I don't know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1 day format had a very low pass rate. I know I could have used a couple more hours to finish. If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and failed, don't be discouraged. I think they've scaled it back a little nowadays. Fast forwarding to today. After spending a week with Val, Bruce, and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed, I felt pretty prepared. Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's book made sense. Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this morning. Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch. At that point I was done with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's. In other words about 2/3 of the way done, by my estimate. At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back and work on 3 things I couldn't figure out. A little discussing with the proctor, and 2 of them were fixed. But then I think I read too much. I had solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might change what they were looking for. Checking with the proctor, I got the impression that he really didn't like my solution. So there I am, 1.5 hours to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :( Looked OK, but with 1/2 an hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o 10 minutes to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double check all my other work as time expired. I know I left 1 thing unconfigured (a 2 pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes. They said to expect the results tomorrow afternoon. A plane flight back to New York, and there's the email waiting. 8776! If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short list:
Groupstudy! Paul's done a great job. There are certain people on this list that should be flagged as must-reads. I won't mention any last names, but there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs) that are a huge asset to this list. Thanks guys. Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP, but were afraid to ask. Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val Pavlichenko - Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon. This book covers most everything. I expect the new edition will cover more multicast and QOS, and drop Appletalk and DECnet. But still the most useful book I've found. Halabi - Used 1st edition, but everything I was asked to do with BGP is in that book. Bootcamp labs - Worked though these with a partner, because his company was cool enough to buy them for him, and my company wasn't! Great preparation and simulation for the test. Various docs from CCO - Might as well go to the source! Most importantly - NMC-1 http://www.netmasterclass.net/nmc/ Bruce and Val explain the most difficult subjects very well. A couple of things are a little lacking in the book, but they cover those very well in the class. Be prepared to work your a** off that week though. 8:30AM to 11PM is the norm that week. But I highly recommend it, especially if you've come close to passing before. Well, sorry to ramble on so much. I'm off to bed for a L O N G sleep. Thanks again, Chuck Church CCIE 8776 CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE Sr. Network Engineer Magnacom Technologies 140 N. Rt. 303 Valley Cottage, NY 10989 845-267-4000 x218 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=35257&t=35257 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]