Joe,

        I practiced mostly on speed.  Plus some crack and methanphetamines
as well.  Just kidding.  I've got 8 routers at home.  The last couple of
weeks, I've practiced just blasting in the various frame maps as fast as
possible, and then configuring the most bizarre IGP configurations.
Multiple mutual redistribution points, and crazy netmasks all over the
place.  Eventually I got the hang of it, and found the 'distance' command
with it's options after the metric most useful.  I did a little studying of
the 'little' things, but focused mostly on the 'meat and potatoes' of the
lab - IGPs.

Thanks,
Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Joe Morabito
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 7:47 AM
To: Chuck Church; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Whew! CCIE 8776!


Congrats!

What did you do the last couple of months?  Practice speed?  Or maybe
practice the many "little" things in IOS?

Thanks!

I too long for a good night sleep....


----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Church" 
To: ; 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:43 AM
Subject: Whew! CCIE 8776!


> All,
>
> I think the title says it all.  Took the lab today at RTP.  4th time
> was the charm.  I don't know where to begin.  Might as well start with the
> thank you's.  Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass.  Thanks
also
> to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out
in
> the past with problems.  Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list
> together.  As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole story.
> Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the
Novell
> and MS Certs.  After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE written
> in October 2000.  Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare
> for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP.  Didn't know much more
> than your average CCNP would.  Tried again in April, but BGP killed me,
and
> again I didn't make it to day 2.  After that, I found a study partner
> (Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer.  Did all the
bootcamp
> labs, thought I knew everything I needed to.
> November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab.  I don't
> know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1
day
> format had a very low pass rate.  I know I could have used a couple more
> hours to finish.  If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and
> failed, don't be discouraged.  I think they've scaled it back a little
> nowadays.
> Fast forwarding to today.  After spending a week with Val, Bruce,
> and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed, I
> felt pretty prepared.  Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's
book
> made sense.  Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this
morning.
> Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch.  At that point I was done
> with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's.  In other words about 2/3
of
> the way done, by my estimate.  At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back
and
> work on 3 things I couldn't figure out.  A little discussing with the
> proctor, and 2 of them were fixed.  But then I think I read too much.  I
had
> solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might
> change what they were looking for.  Checking with the proctor, I got the
> impression that he really didn't like my solution.  So there I am, 1.5
hours
> to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :(  Looked OK, but with 1/2
an
> hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o  10 minutes
> to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double
> check all my other work as time expired.  I know I left 1 thing
unconfigured
> (a 2 pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes.  They
said
> to expect the results tomorrow afternoon.  A plane flight back to New
York,
> and there's the email waiting.  8776!
> If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short list:
>
> Groupstudy!  Paul's done a great job.  There are certain people on this
list
> that should be flagged as must-reads.  I won't mention any last names, but
> there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs) that are a
huge
> asset to this list.  Thanks guys.
>
> Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP, but
> were afraid to ask.
>
> Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val
Pavlichenko
> - Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon.  This book covers
> most everything.  I expect the new edition will cover more multicast and
> QOS, and drop Appletalk and DECnet.  But still the most useful book I've
> found.
>
> Halabi - Used 1st edition, but everything I was asked to do with BGP is in
> that book.
>
> Bootcamp labs - Worked though these with a partner, because his company
was
> cool enough to buy them for him, and my company wasn't!  Great preparation
> and simulation for the test.
>
> Various docs from CCO - Might as well go to the source!
>
> Most importantly - NMC-1 http://www.netmasterclass.net/nmc/  Bruce and Val
> explain the most difficult subjects very well.  A couple of things are a
> little lacking in the book, but they cover those very well in the class.
Be
> prepared to work your a** off that week though.  8:30AM to 11PM is the
norm
> that week.  But I highly recommend it, especially if you've come close to
> passing before.
>
> Well, sorry to ramble on so much.  I'm off to bed for a L O N G
> sleep.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Chuck Church
> CCIE 8776
> CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
> Sr. Network Engineer
> Magnacom Technologies
> 140 N. Rt. 303
> Valley Cottage, NY 10989
> 845-267-4000 x218
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