In my own lab a I have a 506. I would like to have another pix with a dmz interface. I am sure pretty sure they will cover pix to pix and dmz in the ccie security. But even on ebay to buy a 520 with three interfaces usually runs over $2k. I have a full lab at home - atm, token ring, isdn, frame - ten routers and three switches. Another $2k to $3k for a pix with three interfaces is beyond my reach.
So how do you practice pix to pix and dmz? >From: "Scott Morris" >Reply-To: >To: "'Wes Stevens'" >Subject: RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix? >Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 08:32:24 -0500 > >Somebody's already been selling 'em on EBay. > >And I never said legal action should be brought against anyway... I merely >said it wasn't a bright idea to discuss it in a public forum where Cisco >people were at. > >As for discouraging the program, I hardly think this would do it. You >don't >see people cloning ATM boxes, or VoIP stuff, do ya? So the argument of >this >is a cost-effective marketing tool for the CCIE program hasn't historically >been a problem. > >*shrug* If people want to do it, they'll do it. However, I don't think it >is advisable to discuss it publically, nor sell it. Whether to another >person for "study purposes only" or whatever... Control gets lost after >that. > >And you can get a 501 for the same price, if not less than the 16 meg card >anyway, so what the hell is the point in building your own? It's not the >price-point! > >Scott > >-----Original Message----- >From: Wes Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 7:53 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix? > > >Scott, > >"use other then intended" > >Maybe, but they sell the board with the code installed. It is intended as >an >upgrade, but I don't think there is any legal clause shipped with it saying >you can use it for no other purpose. Again the original post was a pix for >a >CCIE security lab. I just cannot see Cisco taking legal action there. They >have never been a legally heavy handed company. To take action in that case >would send the wrong message. The CCIE program is one of their best >marketing tools. It puts industry reconized experts in the field with a >diffinite Cisco bias to them. The CCIE Security program is fairly new and I >don't think it would be in their best interest to discourage it in any way. > >Now if someone starts cloning pix's by the dozens and selling them on ebay >that is a whole different story. > > >From: "Scott Morris" > >Reply-To: > >To: "'Wes Stevens'" > >Subject: RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix? > >Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 07:26:33 -0500 > > > >I believe that would be a "use other than intended".... > > > >Cisco is a little lax in enforcing software licenses... Lots of people > >resell routers with IOS installed (not supposed to). Lots of people > >download feature sets they don't have licenses for (not supposed to). > > > >There have actually been some cases where Cisco's gone after people > >(typically larger companies). But it's a WHOLE different thing to BUILD >a > >device and put their software on it... If I were to build my own router > >(god only knows why), and put their software on it, I would fully expect >to > >hear from Cisco. > > > >Worse, if I were to sell it on EBay, that's just asking for trouble. And > >before you comment, yes, PIX clones HAVE been sold on Ebay from > >not-so-bright individuals. > > > >Where do you draw the line? Lots of people drive fast. It's still > >illegal. > >If you do it enough, and publically flaunt it, chances are you'll get > >pulled > >over sometime. Go figure. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > >Wes Stevens > >Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 7:15 AM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix? > > > > > >Is this pirating software? Cisco sells this board with the software > >installed in it. This is no different then buying any other router on on > >Ebay and using it without putting it on smartnet. Are you going to take > >legal action against all of those people also? > > >From: "Jason Sullivan" > > >To: "Wes Stevens" > > >Subject: RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix? > > >Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 20:14:50 -0700 > > > > > > > > > > > >First give me a break it was just an observation. > > >Second, pirating software is illegal. Read the disclaimer out on CCO. > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Wes Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 8:05 PM > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix? > > > > > > > > >J > > > > > > >From: "Jason Sullivan" > > > >Reply-To: "Jason Sullivan" > > > >To: "Athony Jones" , , > > > > > > > >Subject: RE: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix? > > > >Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 17:58:32 -0700 > > > > > > > >You should take the 400 you spent and buy a 501. I promise it will >be > > >less > > > >than your legal fees if Cisco were to get involved. > > > > > > > > > > > >Jason Sullivan > > > >Systems Engineer > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Office (801)270-6732 > > > >Pager (800)365-4578 > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >- > > > >----------------------- > > > >Welcome to the Internet, Transportation provided by Cisco Systems > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >- > > > >----------------------- > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf >Of > > > >Athony Jones > > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:02 PM > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Subject: How to get the activation key for my clone Pix? > > > > > > > >Hi Everyone, > > > >After struggling for the past two days, I have > > > >successfully cloned a Pix firewall by using my PC. > > > >I plug the 16MB flash card into the PC's ISA slot > > > >and the PC recognize that it is a Pix flash card > > > >(cost me $400.00). It boots up fine and everything > > > >seems to be in order. However, after the boot up > > > >sequence, it asks me for the activation key. I've > > > >been trying many different possible scenarios without > > > >much success. I even tried to use the activation key > > > >from another Pix firewall but that doesn't work > > > >either. > > > > > > > >Anybody know how I can fake my clone Pix with a > > > >fake activation key? By the way,I am running Pix OS > > > >code version 6.1(2). I even tried 5.3(1), 5.3(2), > > > >6.0(1) and 6.1(1) and one of them works. By the way, > > > >the PC has 128MB of RAM and a 16Mb Flash ISA card. > > > >I tried to clone a Pix520. > > > > > > > >Please help. > > > > > > > >Jason > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > > >Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! > > > >http://greetings.yahoo.com > > > >__________________________________________________________________ > > > >To unsubscribe from the SECURITY list, send a message to > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: > > > >unsubscribe SECURITY > > > >__________________________________________________________________ > > > >To unsubscribe from the SECURITY list, send a message to > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: > > > >unsubscribe SECURITY > > > > > > > > >Jason, > > > > > >When you make a post with your company's name under it you are speaking > >for > > >your company. I suggest that before you make posts threating legal >action > > >against someone you make sure you know policy on the pix flash card and > > >talk > > >to your legal affairs. > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > >http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > >__________________________________________________________________ > >To unsubscribe from the SECURITY list, send a message to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] with the body containing: > >unsubscribe SECURITY > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=36630&t=36630 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
